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Is 40C a bad temp for gaming?
CPU? GPU? MOBO? Or your room? :P
If your room is 40C, then you should probably consider to turn off the heater. Otherwise the temp seems fine.

Using the stock cooler right now as well. I have a Corsair H100 that currently is in a swamp in California, and about to be thrown in the trash because the pump failed. Once Asetek- I mean, Corsair, sends me a new one, I'll check out the new temperatures that will actually be half-decent.

The stock cooler keeps the PC idle at about 35C stock (Asus P8Z77M-PRO, i5 2500K) and on full usage it's about 60C. It's not that great of a cooler but it works.

D:

Yikes. Hope the new one is decent,

Is 40C a bad temp for gaming?

There is no ideal temperature for any particular task, whether you're gaming, browsing the web, or doing calculations.

The only bad temperature is a temperature that's out of spec. It depends on your particular processor but the manufacturer should tell you what it is in the datasheet.

For example, we'll take an Intel Core 2 Duo E8600, which is a pretty common processor. It has a minimum operating temperature of 5C and a maximum of "case temperature" of about 74C if you are running it at 65W.

Case temperature basically means "this is the maximum temperature the processor can hit and the stock cooler can move enough heat way from the processor in order to safely operate the processor in standard conditions." In Intel's datasheet for the Core Duo processors, case temperature (Tc) is measured from the surface of the processor at the geometric center. You should probably use the onboard thermometer though and not try to measure it yourself.

If you hit the max you have a couple of options. Cool the case better with more fans, removing the side panel, buying a better case, etc, cool the processor with a better fan, heatsink, or water cooler, or underclock the processor since the amount of heat given off the chip is proportional to the power put into it. The Intel E8600 will do this automatically using two different mechanisms, one cycles clocks on and off and has a small hit to performance, while the other undervolts and underclocks the processor and would have a noticeable impact on performance.

You can find typically find the datasheet for your processor by just googling "<processor> datasheet." For example, here's the Intel E8000 series documentation: http://www.intel.com/design/core2duo/documentation.htm

Here's some thermal characteristics for common AMD processors:
http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/43375.pdf

They're called different things for different processors. Intel and AMD use case temperature, some microcontrollers or other simple processors might call it "temperature under bias," which is simply the temperature it works at when powered. You need to read the thermal documentation carefully and entirely, including footnotes, to figure out the maximum operating temperature, since it's not always obvious which one is the right temperature ("tease temp" is not the right one). Sometimes they'll just give you a formula.

As a rule of thumb, looking through various documentation, 60~70C seemed to be a common temperature. However, it will depend on your processor. I think my laptop runs at 60 something.

If you're running stock parts (no overclocking, no custom coolers), and you have it in a normal room at room temperature (not an unventilated closet, under a stack of papers, or god forbid in a desk drawer in a third floor lecture hall with closed windows in summer) then you don't need to worry about it.
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My laptop tends to run really really really hot. Sometimes to the point in which it closes games (mostly Civ 5). Do those cooling pad things with the pads work well?

I would try taking a compressed air can and spraying the vents while the computer is off.

who here uses mechanical keyboards? If so what kind of switch do you use?

My laptop tends to run really really really hot. Sometimes to the point in which it closes games (mostly Civ 5). Do those cooling pad things with the pads work well?
sounds like something's blocking the airflow. rub a magnet around the bottom of your laptop in a circular motion.
do what jacksaunt said.

D:

Yikes. Hope the new one is decent,

At least Corsair's tech support was good. I told them the problem and they diagnosed it as a busted pump, so they're sending me a new one. Had to pay $40 for shipping it to them though. Bullstuff.

who here uses mechanical keyboards? If so what kind of switch do you use?

Razer BlackWidow Ultimate 2011 blue edition, cherry blues. Bloody noisy switches, but great tactile response and feedback.

My laptop tends to run really really really hot. Sometimes to the point in which it closes games (mostly Civ 5). Do those cooling pad things with the pads work well?

Laptops almost always are extremely hot under load. The main reason being is because there is very little room for airflow in the notebook and it tends to generate a lot of heat when you're running a game, HD movie or sometimes even Skype. The best thing you can to do aid this is-
... [take] a compressed air can and [spray] the vents while the computer is off.
or better yet - open up your laptop and spray the whole thing with canned air. Spraying the dust back into the fan from the outside won't really do a good job of cleaning it out.

If all else fails, either buy one of those neat laptop cooling pads for when you're gaming, or just build a gaming desktop and game there.

who here uses mechanical keyboards? If so what kind of switch do you use?

there was this really good video on youtube explaining the different switches .. and I tried to find it for you .. but I couldn't ..

keep in mind they all have different noise levels and they provide feedback differently

I'm thinking of using cherry brown switches.

whats the best cpu for around 150?

I will do gaming, still can't decide should i get the amd 965 or the fx6300.

What should i do?

whats the best cpu for around 150?

I will do gaming, still can't decide should i get the amd 965 or the fx6300.

What should i do?
save your money



An i5

which one

like relative price/performance, which one is better