Counter Protest Signs to WBC

[Trinick!]

From your link:
 A hate crime is a category used to describe bias-motivated violence: "assault, injury, and murder on the basis of certain personal characteristics: different appearance, different color, different nationality, different language, different religion." [2]

Also from my link:
"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts that are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the types above, or of their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).[3]

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[DrenDran]

This is be fairly accurate.

Aside that one blows people up.

WBC did 9/11.

Put that on a sign, motherforgeter.

[Fredulus]

Also from my link:
"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts that are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the types above, or of their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).[3]

Not seeing any loitering. Which of course they don't do anyway.

Admit it, they're not breaking any laws or they'd have been put in prison long ago.

[DrenDran]

Also from my link:
"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts that are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the types above, or of their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).[3]

I don't get why they had to make a special classification for "hate crime".
Seems silly. A crime's a crime, the motivation shouldn't matter so much.

[Trinick!]

Not seeing any loitering. Which of course they don't do anyway.

Admit it, they're not breaking any laws or they'd have been put in prison long ago.

I never said they loitered, I gave it as an example of a crime that can be extended by hate. I didn't even know that's how you interpreted my message, that's why I didn't respond to it. But they definitely are breaking harassment and hate crime laws, that's why they're monitored by the Anti-Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Center.

[Fredulus]

No, they're monitored because they MIGHT break a law lol
You really think they're just going along, breaking all kinds of laws, pissing all kinds of people off, and no one cares enough to prosecute?

[Trinick!]

No, they're monitored because they MIGHT break a law lol
You really think they're just going along, breaking all kinds of laws, pissing all kinds of people off, and no one cares enough to prosecute?

They have good legal representation, but yes they are breaking laws and they are being prosecuted.

[TristanLuigi]

No, they're monitored because they MIGHT break a law lol
You really think they're just going along, breaking all kinds of laws, pissing all kinds of people off, and no one cares enough to prosecute?

Pretty much
Hate crimes kind of slip past everyone because they aren't exactly crime-ey. While they are illegal, each of us has probably done a  hate crime 500 times. Yet we're not in jail for it. Obviously, their hate crimes are more serious. The reason they go free is because they mask it behind religion so that they can say that it's "not hating, just believing our religion" kind of thing.

[Fredulus]

..no. hate crimes are normal crimes committed for tribal/etc reasons. hating is not a crime. you can hold up a sign that says "GOD HATES GAYS". that's totally within your rights. It's called freedom of speech.

[Trinick!]

..no. hate crimes are normal crimes committed for tribal/etc reasons. hating is not a crime. you can hold up a sign that says "GOD HATES GAYS". that's totally within your rights. It's called freedom of speech.

Yes, but following people to their funerals and picketing at them is harassment, which is a crime.

[Kalphiter]

The WBC is to Christians, what Al Quaeda is to Muslims or something like that.

You can't really compare a non-violent hate group to a violent one.

[Fredulus]

They don't follow people to their funerals. They picket outside cemeteries. That's legal.

[Trinick!]

They don't follow people to their funerals. They picket outside cemeteries. That's legal.

It's a legal grey area that the WBC is capitalizing on. It's harassment because picketing outside a cemetery is still disruptive and offensive to people, but it's not direct harassment because they are outside the cemetery. Again, their quality legal representation is keeping them out of jail. If they didn't have good legal representation they would have been convicted of many charges of illegal activities.

[TristanLuigi]

They don't follow people to their funerals. They picket outside cemeteries. That's legal.

Why are you defending WBC- that's my question.

[Fredulus]

Okay I can sort of agree that its a legal gray area. Only thing I'm adamant about is they haven't technically been proven to break any laws

Why are you defending WBC- that's my question.

grow up dude. what are you, 12?