Life found beneath 800m of Antarctic ice, isolated for 100,000 years.

[Gojira]

it is true

it's a theory
there's no way whatsoever to prove it in the short run

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[Mega-Bear]

it's a theory
there's no way whatsoever to prove it in the short run

You must have done terrible in your science classes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[3] This is significantly different from the word "theory" in common usage, which implies that something is unproven or speculative.[5]

[Dodger]

The only problem I have with evolution from an objective viewpoint is that it's had to determine whether creatures evolve gradually over time in response to an environmental change, or whether it's very quick yet brief. I forgot what my biology textbook said it's name was.

[dkamm65]

There are other theories of creationism that aren't young earth

And "day-age" creationists didn't exist before the discovery of evolution. They're just looking for any way they can to cling on to their false belief.

[Shadowed999]

Why are you guys so stupid.

I mean seriosusly, someone mentions religion/scientific theory, and you go apestuff.

Humans evolved, okay big deal.

Humans were created, okay big deal.


Either way, we're still humans no matter how we came into existence and this constant babbling over who's right is idiotic.


Edit: Pretty cool stuff here.

[Dodger]

And "day-age" creationists didn't exist before the discovery of evolution. They're just looking for any way they can to cling on to their false belief.

The Old-Earth figurative view can be traced back at least to Saint Augustine in the 5th Century who pointed out, in De Genesi ad Litteram (On the Literal [Interpretation of] Genesis) that the "days" in Genesis could not be literal days, if only because Genesis itself tells us that the sun was not made until the fourth "day".[1]

[dkamm65]

Saint Augustine proposed the idea that the "days" in the bible weren't actual 24 hour days, but it wasn't until the 1700's that people questioned the 6000 year old figure. They came up with an age 75,000 in 1774.

It took until the mid 19th century for anyone to assert the Earth was older than previously thought, though humanity was still young. John William Dawson, who believed everything in the universe was created as is (including life), proposed that the Earth had been around much longer than humanity, and that the bible supported this belief.

All of this was in the wake of research showing the Earth was at millions of years old. Creationists conceded the age of the Earth, but not the age of life on Earth...

...until Charles Darwin proposed the concept of evolution.

Even into the 20th century, early day-age creationists were arguing for special creation.

[Ticonderoga]

IMO this is evidence that some form of life could exist on planets never thought to be capable...

[Extrude]

IMO this is evidence that some form of life could exist on planets never thought to be capable...

It's been proven that there is life on other planets ever since we became self-aware. You're a few million years late.

[Titanium Man]

It's been proven that there is life on other planets ever since we became self-aware. You're a few million years late.

it's been proven that this topic is full of bullstuff

[sir dooble]

It's been proven that there is life on other planets ever since we became self-aware. You're a few million years late.

Actually, you're a little bit early.

There's been speculation that there is/has been life on other planets for some time (not since the dawn of human consciousness, since back then people weren't even aware we were on a planet and that there were other planets), but there has never been any proof that there has been life on other planets.
There's information we've gathered which suggests, but never any proof. If there were actual proof, then we'd have actually discovered them.
As in, taken pictures or gone and met them or brought them back to us.
That is the only proof we could ever have that there is life on other planets/moons.

[Mega-Bear]

IMO this is evidence that some form of life could exist on planets never thought to be capable...

Eh, we've known that extremophiles can survive in places like this for a while. But yes, this discovery certainly affirms that.

[Dodger]

Saint Augustine proposed the idea that the "days" in the bible weren't actual 24 hour days, but it wasn't until the 1700's that people questioned the 6000 year old figure. They came up with an age 75,000 in 1774.

It took until the mid 19th century for anyone to assert the Earth was older than previously thought, though humanity was still young. John William Dawson, who believed everything in the universe was created as is (including life), proposed that the Earth had been around much longer than humanity, and that the bible supported this belief.

All of this was in the wake of research showing the Earth was at millions of years old. Creationists conceded the age of the Earth, but not the age of life on Earth...

...until Charles Darwin proposed the concept of evolution.

Even into the 20th century, early day-age creationists were arguing for special creation.

I see your point here. Even then, science also has to accommodate new discoveries such as that.

There was direct evidence in the bible that these days were not literal, even as stated in the Bible itself ("But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day." II Peter 2:3, notice how like is used in the text as a simile and not a literal equation, and also, "For a thousand years in Your sight Are like yesterday when it passes by, Or as a watch in the night." Psalm 90:4), this could easily account for life significantly older than humans, since Humanity was created on the last "day", as opposed to the aquatic animals on the fifth day and the animals on the sixth day. So even if the point for the origin of life was incorrect up to this point, remember that nobody had definite proof of anything past recorded human history, and it was easy to settle for a literal interpretation of a translated text, however the Day-age interpretation is not without biblical support.

[dkamm65]

The bible was taken literally for a very long time. It was only decided that we'd starting thinking metaphorically once our understanding of the world left no room for the biblical explanations.

To me it looks like creationists are just slowly changing and molding their interpretations of the bible as scientific discoveries slowly disprove it. As a wise man once said, "God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance."

[Katadeus]

It must be frustrating work reinterpreting the Bible
I mean there's only so far you can go.