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Author Topic: Colonel's LifeRP - Why cRP when you can go lRP?  (Read 2008 times)

Colonel's LifeRP
"to heck with Tezuni's cRP" -Me






Why not cRP?

(oh and before you read what is below, I did draw some ideas from this, but I wanted jobs gone before I saw it: http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=214290.0)

first off, I'd like to start off by saying: *EDIT* Torquescript is basically like another programming language that i know, and i am picking it up pretty quickly. *BEFORE/EDIT* i don't know much torquescript although, I do know C# and some other languages that I'd rather not be bothered to mention, so I figure learning it shouldn't be too terribly hard. I probably should learn it first, but this idea is fresh off of my mind and I really want to share it. right now. so that is that, if you want to continue reading, go ahead, but keep in mind that this could be impossible in BL.

so, why not just make another cRP mod you ask? because they are overused, even if it is not Iban's mod, I am really getting sick of all these "revolutionary" cRP mods. (although i have to say I do love Jasa's cRP.)

on top of that, there is one thing in cRP's that I absolutely despise - JOB LIMITATIONS. for example, if you are CEO of a big company, then are you limited to just 1 kind of shop? or does that mean that you can only work said job? no, it does not. which is why LifeRP will either: not have jobs at all, and make you have to buy licenses to work certain jobs, or have jobs cover a wider range of activity. (or ideas from both for that matter.)

however, you might be saying "Well, this will suck. Someone will just get a license to be a criminal and policeman..", simple fix, you can only have certain licenses together, and you can only have a total of 2 or 3. no man on the planet can work as a criminal, a policeman, and a docter. nor can one work as a docter, a policeman, a ceo, a lumberjack, and a official. however, one can work as a ceo and a lumberjack. see where i'm going with this?

and of course there are going to be plenty of different licenses, for example, if you wanted to sell say.. lumber and guns, you'd have to buy a license for gun selling and material selling.

well, hopefully this covers why you should go LifeRP instead of CityRP.



What it is.

this is not a cityrp, but it is similar. this is life instead, this is not just 1 big city. you will be able to go outside the city, but this does not mean that you will get away from the law. warrants from any city will be active anywhere.

not only this, but since you're not living a city life, you will be able to have houses and shops outside of the city, where criminals lurk and drugs run wild. for law, i will most likely be using something similar to the demerits system, but not the same. instead of demerits, you will have different kind of warrants.

take note that you will not be able to arrest people if you currently have a warrant on your head.

Warrants
for LPWs (low priority warrants) you will get a small amount of money ($150).

well, i think you get the idea already, there are M(medium)PWs, H(high)PWs, and VH(very high)PWs.



next, moving on to what the exp system will be in this game.

in short, there will be no experience system. in way, yes, but in another, no. you will not have experience points, but rather you will be able to advance in jobs by how good you do your job. for example, if you are a policeman then you will be able to advance in your job by arresting say.. 3 MPCs (medium priority criminals). or if you are a CEO of a small company, you will advance by selling 50 items. and so on.

and with that, i am also thinking of a system where you will loose your license (and shop if you have one) if you do not do your job, however without knowing torquescript I can't be sure if this is possible.



now, on to the big bad place where all the sneaky criminals go: jail.

the most time you will be able to be in prison for is 1 hour, like jasa's crp, but there will be 1 significant thing about it, you will be able to break out. (once again, not sure if this is possible with torquescript, but i'm going to go on anyways.) if there are several prisoners in jail, then you will be able to break open the walls by clicking on them, each click reduces their health by 1, which i'm thinking all the walls will have about 10000 health. however, your warrant is changed to a VHPW, and you will be automatically tracked. the only way you can clear this is to have a lawyer attempt to clear your warrant.. by the way, lets move on to lawyers..

in this, you will not be able to simply pay off someones warrant, instead, it will cost money to "trial" their warrant, the more money you pay, the shorter the trial is, and the more chance they have of getting their warrant erased. however, don't take this the wrong way. there is a max amount to how much you can pay, and there is always a chance of you failing the trial. the higher the warrant, the higher the chance to loose the trial is.

i think that is all with the jail and warrants.



next up is the money and materials..

oh, one more thing i forgot to mention, you cannot sell a item too low, or you cannot pay for a trial too low. for example, if a item's cost for you, the seller to get it is $100, then you can't sell it for $100 or less than $100. why? because really, would you sell a item where you don't make any profit or loose profit?

refer to the thread i got some of my ideas from, using that material system, with some stuff stripped off of it, basically, you chop lumber, sell to the city, the city sells it to you for building.

UPDATE:
there will also be different laboring jobs, other than the typical lumberjack and miner. you will be able to fish, gamble, of course chop trees, probably race, and maybe even hunt.

so.. yeah.



with that, the law system, license system, materials, and main fundamentals are explained, so pretty much all you need with cRPs was just cleared.

by the way, most of the features in cRPs will be in this, you will also need to eat, drink, and sleep (hopefully this can be implemented).

now.. lets move on to what makes this a LifeRP.

like i said before, you will need to eat, drink, and sleep, but that isn't all. food will be able to be stored, you will also be able to store money in your house, but then again, your house will be able to be broken into, and then again.. again, you will need a house to sleep, or you can pay to sleep in a inn.

but then, you say, why not just buy food on the spot, and why not just keep your money in the bank? because, for money, you will no longer just have a free bank account. you will need to buy a bank account, and as time goes on, it will take the fee for having a bank account from your money in the bank. as for food, once again, i am not sure if this is possible, but you will need to cook your food before eating it.

many, many, many more aspects of life will be put into this game, and of course I am taking recommendations. but that is all I am going to say for now, because this stuff being possible is just speculations made by previous addons I have seen. anyways, on to the last thing.



i am just gonna cover some stuff that i have mentioned before. just gonna be in this section, what kind of licenses, different types of lots, the build, where you will get licenses, etc, etc.

Licenses (only some of them, gonna add more later.)
-Citizen / Default license. Comes with a lumber axe and nothing else. This class can steal, sell drugs, and basically everything a criminal can do. There is no criminal license, what kind of sense would that make? You cannot be a Policeman and a Citizen. You cannot be a Official/Lawyer and a Citizen. No income, can only earn money via/ laboring. Can only own residential lots. Can own guns legally.

-Fisherman / Free license. Comes with a fishing rod and nothing else. Cannot steal like the citizen, but if you have the citizen license with this, then you will be able to steal. No income, can only earn money via/ laboring. Can only own residential lots. Can use this license with any other license.

-Gambler / Free license. Comes with no extra tools, but is the only license that can allow you to bet.. Cannot steal like the citizen, but if you have the citizen license with this, then you will be able to steal. No income, can only earn money via/ betting in the casino. Can only own residential lots. Cannot be a Policeman and a Gambler.

-Policeman / $200. Comes with a baton and a taser on default rank. On upgraded ranks can obtain guns legally, and eventually can track where victims died. You cannot have any other license while being a Policeman. Income is $30 a tick. Can only own residential lots.

-Owner (Shop) / $200. Does not have any extra tools. Cannot sell guns. Cannot have a Policeman licenses while being a Shop Owner. Income is $30 a tick. Can own residential lots and commercial lots.

-Lawyer / $500. Does not have any extra tools. Cannot be a Citizen while having this license. Cannot clear records or remove HPW+. At higher ranks can remove HPW+ Can own residential lots.

-Medical Worker / $300. Does not have any extra tools. Cannot be a Citizen while having this license. Cannot heal for more than 50HP. Can own residential lots and commercial lots.

Lots
-Residential Lots
Comes in small, medium, and large. You cannot sell on these lots, however, you can request funds on these lots and hold trials on these lots. Normally meant for houses and at-home businesses.

-Commerical Lots
Comes in small, medium, and large. You can sell on these lots.

-Advertisement Lots
Comes in small. These lots are used for advertisements, such as billboards or small signs with directions to your shop. These are also considered as commercial lots.

lastly, not really sure about the build.

will cover stuff like bounties, the build, and other interesting stuff like that later.



Progess -wonted be updated till I test it, right now just getting it ready for small tests.
-Fundamentals 0%
-Licenses 0%
-Build 0%
-Living System 0%
-Law 0%
-Other stuff 0%


Kalphiter "suggestions" are welcome. Drama is not.

lets see how this goes.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2013, 08:11:02 PM by cbb50 »


Here we go again.

to add even more:
i have over half the day to myself, as my homeschooling only takes 1-2 hours, and i only have my normal work and tests, and i completed alot of them when the year started, so i am also ahead.

to be short, i have plenty of time, i'm not rushing, and i will learn it as i go along, as C# has a very similar syntax to Torque. going (hopefully) to finish this, as most cRP's on blockland are repetitive, yet advertising "100x better than Iban's".


May I suggest?

you will be able to go outside the city, but this does not mean that you will get away from the law. warrants from any city will be active anywhere.

not only this, but since you're not living a city life, you will be able to have houses and shops outside of the city, where criminals lurk and drugs run wild. for law, i will most likely be using something similar to the demerits system, but not the same. instead of demerits, you will have different kind of warrants.

take note that you will not be able to arrest people if you currently have a warrant on your head.


What about something like a Jurisdiction rule? Each city has its own jurisdiction, where police patrol, and if a criminal is able to leave the jurisdiction (ex. city limits or county line), police can no longer arrest him, until he returns within his Statute of Limitations (if you're going to have it).

But now that I think about it, this may happen automatically, where cops will say, "Oh, he's in that city/jurisdiction now? Now he's their problem I guess." or, "WTF are you doing in my city/jurisdiction? GTFO!" Meh.

Anyways, take what you will from it.

May I suggest?

What about something like a Jurisdiction rule? Each city has its own jurisdiction, where police patrol, and if a criminal is able to leave the jurisdiction (ex. city limits or county line), police can no longer arrest him, until he returns within his Statute of Limitations (if you're going to have it).

But now that I think about it, this may happen automatically, where cops will say, "Oh, he's in that city/jurisdiction now? Now he's their problem I guess." or, "WTF are you doing in my city/jurisdiction? GTFO!" Meh.

Anyways, take what you will from it.

might add something like this, just gonna spend the next few days learning torque and determine if alot of this is possible.

Jesus Christ  please tell me this is a sick joke

You didn't stray from the typical cRP/CityRPG/CityRP ideas or basis' at all.  Why is this so 'different'?

You didn't stray from the typical cRP/CityRPG/CityRP ideas or basis' at all.  Why is this so 'different'?

don't know about you, but i've never seen a cRP with the stuff that i mentioned, but to answer your question, it's more based on life, rather than getting jobs and exp, rinse and repeat till you get the best job and then quit. like i said, i'm not finished listing everything on the thread, because i'm not even sure if it's possible.

it is, indeed based on cRPs, but it is vastly superior in the sense that it is more realistic and isn't just grinding with pickpockets running around stealing your money. i suppose i should list the other stuff though, gonna update the thread.

for instance, instead of wasting away your first 3-6 ticks on the server chopping trees 24/7, i'm going to add little activities that you can do, such as fishing, racing, betting, etc. to earn some money. (once again, not sure if this is possible.)

i stated in the very beginning of the thread that this might not even be done. so tbh, if you don't like it or don't believe it will be good or for that matter, finished, then there is no real reason to be posting in the first place.

let the thread disappear in that case ^, i'll just keep working on this anyways.

Jesus Christ  please tell me this is a sick joke

you know, i would ask you what prompted you to say this, but i'm not gonna bother.

The entire system doesn't even make sense. A license to steal? Sorry last time I checked I'm pretty sure anybody can steal. For example, a doctor stealing money from a patient with "treatment".

Wait!! He can't do that!! He needs a civilian license?? Oh gee, shame that doesn't actually exist and the entire system is already flawed!!

The font is really annoying too, fix it.


Who are you an alt of?
Thats the worst part.
No one.

This kid literally just recently joined.

no need to be so harsh, let him try it out, he might learn some things

Thats the worst part.
No one.

This kid literally just recently joined.
Ya, this game is never happening...