Author Topic: assault weapons ban dropped from senate bill  (Read 5227 times)

yea criminals will do whatever it takes to obtain guns
dont matter what laws are broken
law abiding are screwed over by this
really mentally ill people should be more closely watched etc

yea criminals will do whatever it takes to obtain guns
dont matter what laws are broken
law abiding are screwed over by this
really mentally ill people should be more closely watched etc
How would law abiding people be screwed?
They could get a gun and defend themselves from the people with illegal guns.

Why is it that whenever this topic is brought up every jumps to "DUNT TAEK MAH GUNZ" or "WE GUTTA TAEK DA GUNZ AWAI". There is obviously something bigger here.

Now both solutions won't work. If you ban guns, you will potentially create a larger black market for guns. If you make gun restrictions less, then more people can easily get guns, and potentially allow more dangerous people to get more dangerous weapons.

Both sides seem crappy. The only true solution is to look at what causes people to go out and kill each other. Their thinking is completely deranged. Something about American Society just breeds serial killers and murders; it has been like that for most of the past century. Going with either side would cause drastic change to society, and that wont get us anywhere. Change causes uncertainty. Uncertainty causes fear. Fear causes violence.

"BUT MENNEN IF PEOPLZ HAS GUNZ DEY CAN DEFUND DEMSULF" Nope. I don't want a gun. Not everyone wants a gun. Not everyone likes them. Giving everyone a gun is not the best solution to the problem of gun violence. The idea of Deterrence only works until someone gets a better gun. (Also it doesn't apply to dem crazies)

 "BUT MENNEN IF WE BAN GUNZ DEN PEOPLE WUNT FIET NO MOAR" Nope. Again, black market. If someone REALLY wants a gun they are going to get that gun. You cant just take guns away from every person in the US, that's what tyrants and abusive governments do to their people. Americans have had the idea of "being able to own a firearm" engrained into their brains since America became America.

The problem is a psychological one. America is breeding killers. I don't know why, but how else could you explain our abundance of gun violence compared to other countries? Somehow, people get the idea that violence is the only solution to a problem. The only way to stop the problem of gun violence is to stop people's destructive tendencies and create a society where no one even gets the idea of shooting someone just because they don't agree with you.

And that's my two cents.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2013, 08:00:28 PM by Menen »

Well just because some people don't want guns doesn't mean other people don't want guns to defend themselves. They don't have to defend themselves.

Even if something is influencing the use of guns in America, there's nothing we can do to change the mindset of possibly millions of people. We could try to focus more effort into teaching children the dangers of crime or something like that, but again there's not much to do. I still think the best option is obviously to keep guns legal, since there really isn't any in-between. The government could try to inform people about gun safety or whatever, but it's not that easy.

I guess what I'm saying here is we should keep the right to defend ourselves with guns but put more emphasis on teaching children not to be stupid with guns. Also keeping guns legal would not cause a "drastic change to society," because they are still legal right now. Making guns illegal would, though.

also this is kind of relevant so watch it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wItuvvV_hnc

or this part specifically
http://youtu.be/wItuvvV_hnc?t=2m25s
« Last Edit: March 20, 2013, 08:14:00 PM by Kimon »

So why not buy illegally now?

because illegal guns cost slightly more then i can get them for. as a person with a non criminal record, i still have the option of buying legally.

But, I mean, if it's easier to get them illegally, it seems silly to do the more difficult method. The cost thing makes sense, though.


But, I mean, if it's easier to get them illegally, it seems silly to do the more difficult method. The cost thing makes sense, though.
because if you're caught with it at the wrong place or wrong time or something, you're forgeted.

this is such a small issue compared to other problems this country has

shame on congress for blowing it out of proportion and shame on the people for falling for it

The best method to stop tragedies is to lock up all of the crazies.

The best method to stop tragedies is to lock up all of the crazies.
Lock them up while they're young.

That'll teach 'em...

The best method to stop tragedies is to lock up all of the crazies.
It wouldn't be that easy unless we did like a national psychology test for everyone or something.
this is such a small issue compared to other problems this country has

shame on congress for blowing it out of proportion and shame on the people for falling for it
It's hard to not do anything if 12 children were shot and the public is flipping their stuff. As for the debt, I don't know where that's going because Obama is probably wiping his ass with money as we post.

guys its the fact that jesus isnt allowed in schools anymore
obviously

guys its the fact that jesus isnt allowed in schools anymore
obviously
here in Texas it's either Jesus or get out.

The problem with locking up insane people is that Congress can just change what exactly defines a 'mentally ill' person, locking up anybody they choose (law abiding citizens with guns).