The best v21 argument I've seen.

[Clone2]

Let's end this once and for all.

TERRAIN WAS TAKEN AWAY, AND FOR GOOD REASON.
IT'S NOT COMING BACK.
GET OVER IT.

Besides, there was a poll asking about this earlier on.
The majority of the community would like to keep the flat, easily editable terrain we have today.

Yes, Ephialtes makes a good point saying that the community is a big part of the future development of a game.
The majority of the community says "no" to bringing terrain back, and not even the most powerful and most respected man in the world can change an entire community's point of view.

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[Chrono]

We all understand that Clone2, and I fully agree.

But removing them was supposed to bring faster updates and I haven't seen anything but add-ons and shadows. The shadows would be nice if there were some kind of WORKING environment saving system and hosts actually adjusted them properly.

[ShadowZero]

Let's end this once and for all.

TERRAIN WAS TAKEN AWAY, AND FOR GOOD REASON.
IT'S NOT COMING BACK.
GET OVER IT.

Besides, there was a poll asking about this earlier on.
The majority of the community would like to keep the flat, easily editable terrain we have today.

Yes, Ephialtes makes a good point saying that the community is a big part of the future development of a game.
The majority of the community says "no" to bringing terrain back, and not even the most powerful and most respected man in the world can change an entire community's point of view.

+100 Respect

Yes this, all this.
I agree with you completely.

[Reinforcements]

The majority of the community says "no" to bringing terrain back, and not even the most powerful and most respected man in the world can change an entire community's point of view.

Link or it didn't happen.
I think the reason most people don't want terrain back is because they're tired of all the topics about people wanting it back. Either that or they just want to jump on the bandwagon of hating the people that want it back. *coughclone2cough*

[Nonnel]

not even the most powerful and most respected man in the world can change an entire community's point of view.

uh
that's debatable

[Igloos]

I think that it's best if we moved on already.
Terrain was removed, and that's that.

[lilboarder32]

I don't really care about the terrain and interiors gone, but nothing has truly changed. Especially for Mac users, we didn't even end up being able to view shaders. I like transparency with indie developers, and I feel like Badspot should just be up front with us.

[Flamecannon]

I don't look back at terrains too often and think they need to be back, I feel their removal just gave players more initiative to focus more on the block than the land, and replicas of peoples' cherished memories are always open to be made by you or anyone. We all play a big part in our community and its for us to take advantage of that.

[Tezuni 2.0]

Especially for Mac users, we didn't even end up being able to view shaders.

and people with intel graphics cards

personally, i find shaders to be disadvantageous in many builds

and i always turn all my games up to the brightest setting possible to see everything as clear as possible.

[Orion]

uh
that's debatable

cough

Riddler

[Reinforcements]

Bump

[Mysteroo]

That's a really good point...
So far from v21, other than the things we initially got like S&S and enviroment settings, all we've gotten is:

Treasure chests
PP
Teledoors
doors
skulls, coffin
balls
snowballs
speedkarts and modterrain became default
setvehiclepowered, onminigamereset, camera events added
and bots

Which while it is a lot of stuff, they're all just add-ons. Where's the actual updates?

[Reinforcements]

bump

[Zeblote]

Treasure chests
Teledoors

I'm 100% sure those were already there before v21

[Chrono]

And if PP is player persistence, then that was before v21 too, because I remember it saving your position per map. We don't have maps anymore.