Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

[Alyx Vance]

So what equals peace, o-mighty Caesar?

Nothing equals peace. If we all use close range it'll just be a bigger blood bath.

Question: If someone has a knife and is running at you, wouldn't you want to shoot them so you aren't stabbed?

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[Tomcat]

Nothing equals peace. If we all use close range it'll just be a bigger blood bath.

Question: If someone has a knife and is running at you, wouldn't you want to shoot them so you aren't stabbed?

Wowe cigarette you should get stabbed because kitchen knifes ain't dee-signed to keel, ree-ight?

[Nonnel]

Where frying pan design to kill things: No. Guns: Yes

You sound really silly saying that.

So if I made my own gun and said it was used as a hole puncher, that should be legal in your opinion, although if I made my own gun and said "this is a gun," it shouldn't?

[Menen]

So what equals peace, o-mighty Caesar?

Not Deterrence, that's for sure.

Speaking of guns, I never seem to ever hear of high gun violence in Europe.

Question: If someone has a knife and is running at you, wouldn't you want to shoot them so you aren't stabbed?

No. I rather be stabbed. (Thats is a horrible question by the way)

[Alyx Vance]

Wowe cigarette you should get stabbed because kitchen knifes ain't dee-signed to keel, ree-ight?

What are you saying? I'm saying that I'd rather shoot the guy before it becomes a hand to hand fight match.

[Menen]

What are you saying? I'm saying that I'd rather shoot the guy before it becomes a hand to hand fight match.

Maybe instead of needing a gun to ward of crazed citizens, perhaps the problem lies within the person who is running at you with the knife?

Everyone jumps to the guns. Its always the guns. People are scared of loosing their precious guns. The problem here is the man holding the gun, not the gun itself.

[Harm94]

And Washington has tight gun laws and very low crime, same with Vermont. I think that the correlation is very same.

I do not know anything about Vermont or Washington, but I am taking lots of criminal justice classes. So far all my teachers are retired police officers. Most people who are murdered are killed by someone they know. Most homicides that have 2 or more people dead are gang shootings(gangs shooting at gangs).

Since school shootings and massacres are a big thing lets look at the people who commited them. The Virginia Tech guy and the Colorado shooter where college educated and had a GPA that I envy. Heck the Gritty Grapnel kid was an Honors student.The Virginia Tech guy and Columbine kids played first person shooter games, The Columbine guys played Doom and had made levels modeled after their school, the Virginia Tech guy played Counter Strike. So lets see the common reoccurring themes here. Great students, went to college, some played shooters, some nervous or had mental issues/disabilities.  


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Peter_Lanza#Perpetrator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre#The_search_for_rationale
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Eagan_Holmes#Education_and_career
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho

[Alyx Vance]

That isn't the point about how crazy he is, the point is what do you do?

[Nonnel]

unless he wants to make knives illegal lol

[BlockoCrafter]

Speaking of guns, I never seem to ever hear of high gun violence in Europe.

Do you live in America?
Then it's because not much of Europe gets talked about here. I hear of European gun violence from people who actually live over there. Perhaps it was what Tesla says.

[TeslaCoil]

But can a frying pan do it from a distance, and repeatedly without counter-attack?

If efficiency was the standard for classifying something as a weapon then what you say would mostly be true. However its not and just about anything can be converted to kill.

[TeslaCoil]

Speaking of guns, I never seem to ever hear of high gun violence in Europe.

But the rates for physical assault and blunt violence ratings are through the roof. A gun is just another way to kill someone. Violence is pretty much its own thing. And weapons removal does not resolve violence.

[Harm94]

People have always used and have been killed by weapons. Before guns it was swords, spears, axes, knives, and arrows. Before that clubs and rocks.

[TeslaCoil]

People have always used and have been killed by weapons. Before guns it was swords, spears, axes, knives, and arrows. Before that clubs and rocks.

I made that point before but apparently I was "groping for arguments."


Where's that country that has its citizens assigned a weapon again? Oh yeah, Switzerland.

[Harm94]

Norway also allows it's citizens to own firearms and they still have fewer deaths. And Norway is in Scandinavia, land of the Vikings.