Author Topic: The War on GMO (Genetically Modified Organism Foods  (Read 3788 times)

Firstly, this may have little concern to some people on this forum. I feel that this is something that should be stopped. I mean, who wants to eat something mixed with rat DNA just to make the plant grow faster?

What is GMO?

GMOs, or “genetically modified organisms,” are plants or animals created through the gene splicing techniques of biotechnology (also called genetic engineering, or GE). This experimental technology merges DNA from different species, creating unstable combinations of plant, animal, bacterial and viral genes that cannot occur in nature or in traditional crossbreeding.

For consumers, it can be difficult to stay up-to-date on food ingredients that are at-risk of being genetically modified, as the list of at-risk agricultural ingredients is frequently changing. As part of the Non-GMO Project’s commitment to informed consumer choice, we work diligently to maintain an accurate list of risk ingredients.

Agricultural products are segmented into two groups: (1) those that are high-risk of being GMO because they are currently in commercial production, and (2) those that have a monitored risk because suspected or known incidents of contamination have occurred and/or the crops have genetically modified relatives in commercial production with which cross-pollination (and consequently contamination) is possible.

For more information on the Non-GMO Project’s testing and verification of risk ingredients and processed foods, please see the Non-GMO Project Standard.

High Risk Crops
High-Risk Crops (in commercial production; ingredients derived from these must be tested every time prior to use in Non-GMO Project Verified products (as of December 2011):

Alfalfa (first planting 2011)
Canola (approx. 90% of U.S. crop)
Corn (approx. 88% of U.S. crop in 2011)
Cotton (approx. 90% of U.S. crop in 2011)
Papaya (most of Hawaiian crop; approximately 988 acres)
Soy (approx. 94% of U.S. crop in 2011)
Sugar Beets (approx. 95% of U.S. crop in 2010)
Zucchini and Yellow Summer Squash (approx. 25,000 acres)
ALSO high-risk: animal products (milk, meat, eggs, honey, etc.) because of contamination in feed.



Monitored Crops
Monitored Crops (those for which suspected or known incidents of contamination have occurred, and those crops which have genetically modified relatives in commercial production with which cross-pollination is possible; we test regularly to assess risk, and move to “High-Risk” category for ongoing testing if we see contamination):

Beta vulgaris (e.g., chard, table beets)
Brassica napa (e.g., rutabaga, Siberian kale)
Brassica rapa (e.g., bok choy, mizuna, Chinese cabbage, turnip, rapini, tatsoi)
Curcubita (acorn squash, delicata squash, patty pan)
Flax
Rice
Wheat
Common Ingredients Derived from GMO Risk Crops
Amino Acids, Aspartame, Ascorbic Acid, Sodium Ascorbate, Vitamin C, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Ethanol, Flavorings (“natural” and “artificial”), High-Fructose Corn Syrup, Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein, Lactic Acid, Maltodextrins, Molasses, Monosodium Glutamate, Sucrose, Textured Vegetable Protein (TVP), Xanthan Gum, Vitamins, Yeast Products.


You may also be wondering about…

Tomatoes: In 1994, genetically modified Flavr Savr tomatoes became the first commercially produced GMOs. They were brought out of production just a few years later, in 1997, due to problems with flavor and ability to hold up in shipping. There are no genetically engineered tomatoes in commercial production, and tomatoes are considered “low-risk” by the Non-GMO Project Standard.
Potatoes: Genetically modified NewLeaf potatoes were introduced by Monsanto in 1996. Due to consumer rejection by several fast-food chains and chip makers, the product was never successful and was discontinued in the spring of 2001. There are no genetically engineered potatoes in commercial production, and potatoes are considered “low-risk” by the Non-GMO Project Standard.
Salmon: A company called AquaBounty is currently petitioning the FDA to approve its genetically engineered variety of salmon, which has met with fierce consumer resistance. Find out more here.
Pigs: A genetically engineered variety of pig, called Enviropig was developed by scientists at the University of Guelph, with research starting in 1995 and government approval sought beginning in 2009. In 2012 the University announced an end to the Enviropig program, and the pigs themselves were euthanized in June 2012.

(Text Source: http://www.nongmoproject.org/)



I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't give a stuff if my food was genetically modified.

I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't give a stuff if my food was genetically modified.
You aren't. As long as it's healthy and/or tastes delicious, I'm fine.

I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't give a stuff if my food was genetically modified.

You aren't. As long as it's healthy and/or tastes delicious, I'm fine.

You aren't. As long as it's healthy and/or tastes delicious, I'm fine.
You know, there was a bit on NPR talking about how eating non GMO foods decreases your risks of getting many diseases there are today that weren't common at all hundreds of years ago (cancer, heart disease, stomach problems, lack of vital nutrients, etc.)

the more ya know

You know, there was a bit on NPR talking about how eating non GMO foods decreases your risks of getting many diseases there are today that weren't common at all hundreds of years ago (cancer, heart disease, stomach problems, lack of vital nutrients, etc.)

the more ya know

Do they have proof?

There is no evidence that GMOs are dangerous to your health. There was one pilot study in France that showed that rats eating GMO corn developed tumors, but that species of rat is prone to spontaneously generating tumors anyway. There's no reason why GMOs would cause health problems anyway because the only difference between a 'GMO' and a regular piece of corn is that one protein is expressed differently.

YayFun, I'm gonna be honest and tell you that you're heading down a really bad path. NaturalNews.com is run by a complete lunatic named Mike Adams who is one of the most prominent but by extension insane conspiracy theorists on the internet. He believes that the entire pharmaceutical industry is controlled by the illuminati and that all pharmaceutical medicine is ineffective and actually causes the diseases they are proven to treat.

If you want a rule of thumb, stay away from naturalnews.com and whale.to because literally everything on those websites is crazy conspiracy-theorist crank nonsense.

There is a valid gripe to be had with GMOs with the whole concept of 'genome patents'. It makes it harder for small-scale farmers to have a business because their fields can become fertilized with the progeny of crops carrying the patented 'GMO' genome. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with GMO crops and foods, but the way they are regulated and patented is unethical.
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You know, there was a bit on NPR talking about how eating non GMO foods decreases your risks of getting many diseases there are today that weren't common at all hundreds of years ago (cancer, heart disease, stomach problems, lack of vital nutrients, etc.)

the more ya know
You know, there was a bit of time about forever ago (think 1920's) where the average life span was 60 years old where you didn't have time to develop diseases like cancer or heart disease.

the more ya know you dumb stuff.

aw my state doesn't have a labeling :(

pharmaceutical medicine is ineffective and actually causes the diseases they are proven to treat.

I don't take any pharmaceutical medicine unless I really need to. In the past about 5 years I've only took one prescription, and it was an antibiotic. Other than that I treat everything naturally, so far I've been successful. My cousin is also switching to natural because the medicine he's on is doing more damage than good.

There is nothing "good" about synthetic medicine.

thank you seventh

I don't take any pharmaceutical medicine unless I really need to. In the past about 5 years I've only took one prescription, and it was an antibiotic. Other than that I treat everything naturally, so far I've been successful. My cousin is also switching to natural because the medicine he's on is doing more damage than good.

There is nothing "good" about synthetic medicine.


what the forget are you on

Oh god, this is so last year.

I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't give a stuff if my food was genetically modified.
Nope.

If it's not a health risk I don't see why I should care.
There is no evidence that GMOs are dangerous to your health. There was one pilot study in France that showed that rats eating GMO corn developed tumors, but that species of rat is prone to spontaneously generating tumors anyway. There's no reason why GMOs would cause health problems anyway because the only difference between a 'GMO' and a regular piece of corn is that one protein is expressed differently.

YayFun, I'm gonna be honest and tell you that you're heading down a really bad path. NaturalNews.com is run by a complete lunatic named Mike Adams who is one of the most prominent but by extension insane conspiracy theorists on the internet. He believes that the entire pharmaceutical industry is controlled by the illuminati and that all pharmaceutical medicine is ineffective and actually causes the diseases they are proven to treat.

If you want a rule of thumb, stay away from naturalnews.com and whale.to because literally everything on those websites is crazy conspiracy-theorist crank nonsense.

There is a valid gripe to be had with GMOs with the whole concept of 'genome patents'. It makes it harder for small-scale farmers to have a business because their fields can become fertilized with the progeny of crops carrying the patented 'GMO' genome. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with GMO crops and foods, but the way they are regulated and patented is unethical.
Pretty much this.

i hope you know that GMO has been going on ever since humanity discovered agriculture.

I don't take any pharmaceutical medicine unless I really need to. In the past about 5 years I've only took one prescription, and it was an antibiotic.
Did it treat your infection? If so, then it worked.
Other than that I treat everything naturally, so far I've been successful.
This isn't proof that "synthetic medicine" (or as normal people call it, medicine) doesn't work.
Because it works for a lot of people.
I don't know if you're going down this line, but please please please avoid claiming types of treatment do or don't work just on personal experience and due to random statistics.

It's much the same as when people claim that smoking Tobacco can't be bad for you, because their 84 year old Nan has smoked it for 60 years and is fine.
There is a thing called probability.
There will always be people who are an exception to a rule.
Smoking Tobacco greatly increases the chances of developing Mouth, Throat and Lung cancers. It's not a guarantee though, that's why some people can smoke and not get it. Some can smoke once and get it. Some can never smoke and still get it.

The same is true with all medicine. Some people have it work perfectly, some don't. Sometimes individual drugs aren't particularly effective. But that doesn't mean all of them aren't.
My cousin is also switching to natural because the medicine he's on is doing more damage than good.
What medicine is he on, and why?
There is nothing "good" about synthetic medicine.
There is nothing "bad" about synthetic medicine.

There is nothing "good" about natural medicine.
By the way, a lot of our medicines (most of the best ones) come from nature.
Aspirin comes from Willow trees.
Morphine, Codeine, Opium and Heroin (all are successful pain-killers, and have been used at one point in time for medicine) all come from the Opium poppy.


The whole point of synthesising drugs is so that they can be produced at a massive scale.
Many of them do wonders, and they save lives regularly.
Please don't brush them off, just because you personally find "natural" medicine to have helped you with some things.


I personally don't really care about Genetically Modified foods.

I see no problem with it. So long as it's done carefully, and it doesn't result in viral outbreaks, or ecological problems (like introducing a GM species of plant which outcompetes other types and takes over areas).

It can do absolute wonders.
Genetically Modified rice has saved millions of lives all around the world, as it's much more durable and easy to grow than regular rice, and has fed starving Third-World countries.

If I recall correctly almost all bananas in the world are Genetically Modified, after a viral infection spread through the species of banana that all the worlds population was using. The new GM species is resistant to the virus, and it provided food to much of the world, aswell as prevented a massive economic collapse of the banana farming industry (which is gigantic).