Poll

Abortions?

Yay
141 (66.8%)
Nay
46 (21.8%)
Undecisive
24 (11.4%)

Total Members Voted: 211

Author Topic: Abortions? Yay or Nay?  (Read 10545 times)

i'm sure there's some dumb nignogs that would complain about even that, seeing what morons we've had in this thread so far

Yeah because calling people name's totally make's us look good. Those kid's who call people Gaylord sure are mature.

Is it that hard to use a tube of spermicide? As far as I see both sides are flawed.
Spermicide doesn't always work. The Guttmacher Institute says 54% of abortions are done on women who used a contraceptive and got pregnant. It doesn't break-down that percentage by the specific methods, but I'm pretty sure that includes spermicide.

Joe411, what's your religious standpoint? I'm curious.

Joe411, what's your religious standpoint? I'm curious.
Hey, that really shouldn't matter much. Regardless of how he acquired this personal belief, it shouldn't be used to restrict women's rights.

Spermicide doesn't always work. The Guttmacher Institute says 54% of abortions are done on women who used a contraceptive and got pregnant. It doesn't break-down that percentage by the specific methods, but I'm pretty sure that includes spermicide.
Nothing perfect, even the machines used for abortions can hurt a woman. Also for future reference be careful when you use percentages. Some professors are skeptical of them.

Also, a man could get a vasectomy if he doesn't want to start a family.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2013, 09:12:23 PM by Harm94 »

Yeah because calling people name's totally make's us look good. Those kid's who call people Gaylord sure are mature.
there is name calling and then there is logically identifying someone as being completely without logic, for which the word is "moron"

Nothing perfect, even the machines used for abortions can hurt a woman. Also for future reference be careful when you use percentages. Some professors are skeptical of them.
Just check the sources of the study for credibility.

When did I ever say that? Also, a fetus is not just a 'bunch of cells'. A fetus is the stage in prenatal development when organ systems, bones, and organized human tissue form. Fetuses are far more complicated than a 'bunch of cells'. I think you're looking for the word 'zygote' or possibly 'blastocyst'.
I think you have misinterpreted me and then I misinterpreted you. I said something about how food does not carry DNA. (As opposed to a fetus). To which you responded by comparing DNA to an actual human. I interpreted you talking about comparing DNA to an actual human as though you were comparing the fetus which contained the DNA to a human, which was the subject I originally mentioned.


Also, I am not referring to a totem pole of civil rights, but rather the totem pole of considerations when ending life in general. For example: Nobody cares when you pull the head off of a flower, but people usually care if you kill their pet dog. If you accidentally cut yourself, a few of your blood cells might spill out and die in vain. I think that the life of a human fetus/the cells that make up the fetus should be more carefully considered than the life of other cells or fetuses.

But I do agree with you, that excessive worrying about non-conscious beings is silly.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2013, 09:14:14 PM by Doomonkey »

Also for future reference be careful when you use percentages. Some professors are skeptical of them.
...What? The percentages are sourced from a peer-reviewed scientific study published in a reputable medical journal by the Guttmacher Research Division. Do you want a link to the actual study?

I think you have misinterpreted me and then I misinterpreted you. I said something about how food does not carry DNA. (As opposed to a fetus). To which you responded by comparing DNA to an actual human. I interpreted you talking about comparing DNA to an actual human as though you were comparing the fetus which contained the DNA, which was the subject I originally mentioned.


Also, I am not referring to a totem pole of civil rights, but rather the totem pole of considerations when ending life in general. For example: Nobody cares when you pull the head off of a flower, but people usually care if you kill their pet dog. If you accidentally cut yourself, a few of your blood cells might spill out and die in vain. I think that the life of a human fetus/the cells that make up the fetus should be more carefully considered than the life of other cells or fetuses.

But I do agree with you, that excessive worrying about non-conscious beings is silly.
Alright then, point taken lol.


there is name calling and then there is logically identifying someone as being completely without logic, for which the word is "moron"
Right, and therefore logically you are jackass.

Like I said, Vasectomy. If that fails go ahead and remove those cells. Just remember safe responsible love.

Right, and therefore logically you are jackass.
is this news or

no, she was too young to be pregnant
I feel bad for your girl, but I'm sorry to say she has far less to do with this debate than you think she does.

she actually has next to nothing to do with it, really, since he even said she wasn't biologically capable of being impregnated

I feel bad for your girl, but I'm sorry to say she has far less to do with this debate than you think she does.
I know she has not much to do with the idea of abortion, but I thought a bit of insight from experience about the pain that is felt due to rape was necessary, because some individuals in this thread can't grasp how painful rape is! and forcing a woman to keep a baby from said traumatic experience makes it doubly worse