DOMA WAS RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL

[Kimon]

that's stupid as well

well being flamboyant about anything can be annoying, do gay people just get a free pass for some reason?

[Ad Bot]

[Placid]

well being flamboyant about anything can be annoying, do gay people just get a free pass for some reason?

you're missing the point
he's not saying gay people "get a free pass"
he's saying it's dumb to like this kind of person, except for those that are ___
read the rest of the post, it's mocking that kind of logic

[Kimon]

you're missing the point
he's not saying gay people "get a free pass"
he's saying it's dumb to like this kind of person, except for those that are ___
read the rest of the post, it's mocking that kind of logic

I'm not understanding what you guys are getting at, do you mean it's stupid to not care about gay people but get annoyed by flamboyant ones?

[Doomonkey]

sorry but that system is being eradicated by progressives by trying to make things more and more oriented towards popular vote

Lol. The 17th amendment does almost nothing to eliminate the system that protects the rights of the minority. The Bill of Rights, the 14th amendment, and the Supreme Court are all designed to protect the rights of the minority. They still hold strong.

[Kearn]

1st amendment bud.

do you even have any idea what you're talking about at all

Lol. The 17th amendment does almost nothing to eliminate the system that protects the rights of the minority. The Bill of Rights, the 14th amendment, and the Supreme Court are all designed to protect the rights of the minority. They still hold strong.

actually i'm pretty sure that making things more and more majority-oriented kind of defeats the purpose of a minority protection system

[Acerblock]

do you even have any idea what you're talking about at all

actually i'm pretty sure that making things more and more majority-oriented kind of defeats the purpose of a minority protection system

Lol yes I do. No matter how you argue  it, the 1st amendment protects rights for religion, which has to do with minority rights.

[Doomonkey]

actually i'm pretty sure that making things more and more majority-oriented kind of defeats the purpose of a minority protection system

Changing one portion of a system that is independent of the other portions does not destroy the system. There are a lot of ways that our governmental system is structured that cause the minority to be protected, allowing senators to be voted in democratically does not make them the minions of the majority anyway.  

[Kearn]

Lol yes I do. No matter how you argue  it, the 1st amendment protects rights for religion, which has to do with minority rights.

what are you even talking about

freedom of religion has exactly 0 to do with political or ethnic minorities

Changing one portion of a system that is independent of the other portions does not destroy the system. There are a lot of ways that our governmental system is structured that cause the minority to be protected, allowing senators to be voted in democratically does not make them the minions of the majority anyway. 

allowing them to be voted in by direct election removes yet another safety mechanism to prevent majority takeovers, it was originally designed so that the rural voters would have more of a say via their representatives in the state legislature who would in turn vote for senators, but with direct election you're silencing the minority's chance to have senators of their own beliefs appointed

[Headcrab Zombie]

what are you even talking about

freedom of religion has exactly 0 to do with political or ethnic minorities

Freedom of religion is not only the freedom to practice what religion you want, but also the freedom to not have another religion's rules forced upon you.
By prohibiting the establishment of the majority religion, imposing it's beliefs on the entire country, it absolutely does protect the minorities that do not conform to the majority religion

[Doomonkey]

allowing them to be voted in by direct election removes yet another safety mechanism to prevent majority takeovers, it was originally designed so that the rural voters would have more of a say via their representatives in the state legislature who would in turn vote for senators, but with direct election you're silencing the minority's chance to have senators of their own beliefs appointed

Except that most congressional districts are apportioned so that the rural people already get their own congressmen.

[bloody jumper]

I think it's only fair I put my two cents in. There are always going to be Homoloveual people and since they are people too they will eventually get rights like should have had in the first place (At least I hope they get rights)  just because your holy book says no to that stuff doesn't mean you need to hate them. If they get married, it doesn't affect you or your life. This country was built on keeping Chruch and State separate so your book means jack in this situation. Just my two cents.

[Epicduke]

I think it's only fair I put my two cents in. There are always going to be Homoloveual people and since they are people too they will eventually get rights like should have had in the first place (At least I hope they get rights)  just because your holy book says no to that stuff doesn't mean you need to hate them. If they get married, it doesn't affect you or your life. This country was built on keeping Chruch and State separate so your book means jack in this situation. Just my two cents.

This.
I mean I don't really like the idea of gays getting married, but it doesn't really affect me at all so if they can let them.

[Emo Freak]

This.
I mean I don't really like the idea of gays getting married, but it doesn't affect me at all so if they can let them.

And people didn't like the thought of white people marrying black people. Get over it 

[Kearn]

Except that most congressional districts are apportioned so that the rural people already get their own congressmen.

but congressional districts are very population weighted, wyoming and north dakota only have 1 representative each

[Doomonkey]

but congressional districts are very population weighted, wyoming and north dakota only have 1 representative each

And they are pretty much entirely rural farmers.