Bullpups vs. Normal Rifles: Also Su-Frogfoot vs. A10 Warthog

[Mr. Hurricane]

i know. they developed the FGM-148 Javelin

Calculaters --> Advanced Anti-Tank Weapons
Where's the missing link?

M16 with hybrid sights and a grenade launcher. Bitch.

Try that and you will die.
Quickly.

On the topic of Abrams versus T90, I think the Abrams would win, the T90's optics are less than stellar and the Abrams might have just a bit better armor. However the T90 has an autoload which I so dearly love. also there is a drop-in diesel engine for the Abrams. What if we combined the best about the two? And maybe got a better drive train so the Abram could hit 50 or so. Anyway, I really don't like either. Israel's Merkavas are better.

EDIT: I would say AK- variants but I again I think that the Remmington ACR and any other weapon with a 6.8 SPC cartridge is better than either one. Which gun is better depends on who you are fighting and what your beliefs are.

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[AromaniaFTW]

can i give explanation plox

the HK416 shouldn't even be in this lineup because it's just an AR15 that has a gas piston mechanism (short piston specifically) instead of direct impingement to make the gun cycle so it can fire with every pull of the trigger (full auto branches off of this by loving with the trigger mechanism but let's not get into that).

basically an HK416 or any other piston AR15 has a literal piston thingy right above the barrel that is hit by gases and pushes back into the working parts of the gun by rotating the bolt and blah blah blah. the same exact mechanism is in the AK74 and AK100 series, even the AK103/104). on the contrary the AK47 uses a long piston mechanism. there's really no difference.

on the contrary a "direct impingement" rifle such as the AR15 and its derivatives literally use the gases directly to operate the bolt without using any piston or anything. these are where reliability issues arise because of temperature, fouling, etc.

what I'm guessing is that the feel of the weapon and its mechanical attributes will lie on the end user to decide what they like better when it comes down to piston mechanism weapons.
thus, a more sensical battle would be between, if we count the HK416 in, that rifle with a 16" barrel vs. the AK-101 with its rounds per minute on par with the former because AK-type weapons usually fire slower, not that it really matters.

[Mr. Hurricane]

The HK416 is still a derivative of the AR-15 platform, but I see your point.

[Harm94]

My only concern is that the us army relies too heavily on carbines. We still need long rifles like the M16A4 and the USMC hasn't had any problems with them.

[ShadowsfeaR]

We need some bullpup rifles up in here. The FN F2000 is a great weapon.

[Harm94]

We need some bullpup rifles up in here.

I like my magazines infront the trigger.

[Tomcat]

Bullpups! Normal rifles vs Bullpups.

[Epicduke]

Bullpups are weiiirrrddd

[Ragequit]

bullpup

they look cooler

[Harm94]

Fixed magazine bolt action hipster master race.

[Titanium Man]

china wins this round

[Mr. Hurricane]

Bullpup and A-10

[Tayasaurus]

Warthog and regular Rifles

[Mr.jacksaunt]

A10 because of how many things the cannon can do
And normal rifles because you don't necessarily need the longer barrel length to be incredibly accurate. Magazine up front means faster and easier reloading.

[dorkdotdan]

A10 because of how many things the cannon can do
And normal rifles because you don't necessarily need the longer barrel length to be incredibly accurate. Magazine up front means faster and easier reloading.

I think it depends on what you're used to.

Not that it matters though because if you're operating such a weapon you aren't in the position to be picky.