Anyone else sick of the Trayvon Martin case?

[Evan5626]

clearly an overweight man is going to catch a teenager much taller and more fit than him

there were four minutes between when trayvon first saw zimmerman and him attacking zimmerman, he had plenty of time to get home since his home was nearby

not to mention when the operator asked him if he was following him and told him he didn't /need/ to follow him, he said "okay" which implies he stopped

He was in a car first of all. Trayvon ran until I guess he figured that he lost him, so then he walked. Then I assumed Zimmerman still followed behind him in his car to a fair distance, and then pursued him and most likely grabbed him.

You act like this happened all in the same area and that Trayvon didn't run at all. None of us know the full case; there are two sides of the story. One of them is dead, and the other is lying.

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[Funkadelic]

clearly an overweight man is going to catch a teenager much taller and more fit than him

there were four minutes between when trayvon first saw zimmerman and him attacking zimmerman, he had plenty of time to get home since his home was nearby

not to mention when the operator asked him if he was following him and told him he didn't /need/ to follow him

^ignorance^

[Kearn]

He was in a car first of all. Trayvon ran until I guess he figured that he lost him, so then he walked. Then I assumed Zimmerman still followed behind him in his car to a fair distance, and then pursued him and most likely grabbed him.

this is hilarious and impossible, there were so many places in that neighborhood vehicles couldn't go

trayvon had no other injuries except the gunshot wound, the forensics show he was leaning forward when he was shot, and the bullet entered through his lower side which are all consistent with zimmerman's account (along with the injuries to his nose, the back of his head, and the grass stains all over the back of his clothing)

About two minutes into the call, Zimmerman said, "he's running." The dispatcher asked, "He's running? Which way is he running?" The sound of a car door chime is heard, indicating Zimmerman opened his car door. Zimmerman followed Martin, eventually losing sight of him.

After Zimmerman ended his call with police, a violent encounter took place between Martin and Zimmerman, which ended when Zimmerman fatally shot Martin 70 yards (64 m) from the rear door of the townhouse where Martin was staying.

^ignorance^

i'm going to skip you since you're consistently handicapped in basically every conversation you are ever even marginally involved in

[Decepticon]

isn't this the case where that one guy was bringing a lost kid home but when he saw posters about him he killed him?

if that's the case then that was like 2 or 3 years ago wtf

[dkamm65]

clearly an overweight man is going to catch a teenager much taller and more fit than him

He wasn't overweight when this all went down. All that weight came since his arrest, probably due to stress.

Pic from April. Incident occurred in February:

[Tayasaurus]

Nice snazzy looking belt you got the- Oh wait a minute.

[Kearn]

He wasn't overweight when this all went down. All that weight came since his arrest, probably due to stress.

either way, he was overweight and grossly out of shape some time prior to the incident (and is apparently prone to overeating but the stress of a murder trial probably doesn't help that!!!)

but the point is that a muscular teenager 4 inches taller and more fit than his pursuer isn't going to be run down in a few hundred yards to his house by someone that's 5'7-5'8 and nowhere near as fit, and even if this occurred it wouldn't explain the total lack of any injuries aside from the gunshot wound on martin

edit found it

Adam Pollock, owner of a kickboxing gym where Zimmerman had previously trained, testified that Zimmerman was "grossly obese," and not athletic at all. Pollock also testified that "He was an overweight, large man when he came to us, a very pleasant, very nice man, but physically soft and predominantly fat, not a lot of muscle, not a lot of strength." He also testified that Zimmerman came to the gym to lose weight and get in shape.

[Evan5626]

The cops told him not to follow. He did it anyways, which you even proved, saying that he got out of his car and pursued him.
In your first post, you said that he stopped when the cops told him to stop following him. That's obviously not true.

If he would've stayed in his car and let the cops handle it instead of trying to be a cop himself, none of this would've happened.
You cannot argue against the fact that he did leave his car and followed TM.

[Bisjac]

ignoring the police to stop following the kid isnt illegal.
we dont have to follow police orders. we all technically have the powers of citizens arrest at all times. even the use of force.

[Kearn]

The cops told him not to follow. He did it anyways

he followed him before he was told he didn't need to, have you even listened to the call or are you just playing vigilante justice again

ignoring the police to stop following the kid isnt illegal.
we dont have to follow police orders. we all technically have the powers of citizens arrest at all times. even the use of force.

hes right actually, you can follow someone in public if you want as long as you aren't harrassing them

In your first post, you said that he stopped when the cops told him to stop following him.

he stopped following him and then lost sight of him, both his call to police and martin's call with his friend show this was the case

If he would've stayed in his car and let the cops handle it instead of trying to be a cop himself, none of this would've happened.

see: bisjac's post

You cannot argue against the fact that he did leave his car and followed TM.

see: top of post

This is actually true.
Now I don't think that Zimmerman should have shot him though.

oh okay fine next time you're having your head beaten into the concrete don't shoot them, just be happy with your brain damage and skull fractures

[Alyx Vance]

ignoring the police to stop following the kid isnt illegal.
we dont have to follow police orders. we all technically have the powers of citizens arrest at all times. even the use of force.

This is actually true.
Now I don't think that Zimmerman should have shot him though.

[Bisjac]

i remember when i was a security guard years ago.

everyone loves to remind me how much a stupid rent-a-cop i am. or how im not the real police.

then when i beat them upside the head with a flashlight and cuff them to their car bumper for 2 hours. they are very quick to assume they have rights i should be reading to them lol.

citizens arrest is loving awesome. hardly any rules.

[AromaniaFTW]

big bisjac is watching

[Evan5626]

ignoring the police to stop following the kid isnt illegal.
we dont have to follow police orders. we all technically have the powers of citizens arrest at all times. even the use of force.

This has so many flaws in it.
If some weirdo was following you when you didn't pose a threat, then they started to grab you, what would you do?
If Zimmerman has the power of using force as a citizen; why didn't Trayvon?
I never said it was illegal to follow someone, but it's obvious that Trayvon didn't smash Zimmerman's head up against the concrete for just following him. He obviously said/did something to set him off.


Zimmerman thought TM was up to no good, decided to follow him, the police said to stop, he kept following him (How else would they have gotten close enough for him to get physical?), and then tried to arrest him. TM probably hit his head against the concrete and left, and Men's Wearhouse Spokesman shot him from afar.

You're assuming that TM did something to Zimmerman first simply because you think he's a street punk.

[Bisjac]

This has so many flaws in it.
If some weirdo was following you when you didn't pose a threat, then they started to grab you, what would you do?
If Zimmerman has the power of using force as a citizen; why didn't Trayvon?
I never said it was illegal to follow someone, but it's obvious that Trayvon didn't smash Zimmerman's head up against the concrete for just following him. He obviously said/did something to set him off.


Zimmerman thought TM was up to no good, decided to follow him, the police said to stop, he kept following him (How else would they have gotten close enough for him to get physical?), and then tried to arrest him. TM probably hit his head against the concrete and left, and Men's Wearhouse Spokesman shot him from afar.

You're assuming that TM did something to Zimmerman first simply because you think he's a street punk.

im not assuming anything. i am commenting about how ignoring the police dosnt mean anything. you all think hes more criminalized somehow just because the police told him not to do anything.

police suggest that in ANY situation. even if you are calling with your last ounce of breath.

you are so pro-dead kid you missed the point completely.