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[hammereditor²]

Here's your problem

Look, I only know Java and Torquescript and don't want to learn a whole new language like .NET or C# or ASP or whatever.

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[Ephialtes]

Look, I only know Java and Torquescript and don't want to learn a whole new language like .NET or C# or ASP or whatever.

Eh, you don't really "know" Java - I mean sure you know enough to do some very basic things with it but you're still a beginner. You may as well apply yourself to learning a more useful language given the way technology is trending towards the web. Python/Ruby/PHP are good ones, ASP won't be around for long.

[Bisjac]

dont be bashing java man its my fav.


and its being phased out ; ;

[hammereditor²]

Eh, you don't really "know" Java - I mean sure you know enough to do some very basic things with it but you're still a beginner. You may as well apply yourself to learning a more useful language given the way technology is trending towards the web. Python/Ruby/PHP are good ones, ASP won't be around for long.

I was planning to use Java Server faces, which is web-based.

[Ephialtes]

I was planning to use Java Server faces, which is web-based.

There's a pretty good reason why nobody uses that ... just saying. My advice to you is to pick up a proper language for making web systems. Java's not even the slightest bit well suited to doing that.

[Caribou]

Eh, you don't really "know" Java - I mean sure you know enough to do some very basic things with it but you're still a beginner. You may as well apply yourself to learning a more useful language given the way technology is trending towards the web. Python/Ruby/PHP are good ones, ASP won't be around for long.

I agree with you. Java isn't really being used for many web-based things currently. PHP is really useful for those types of things and especially with making applications. Python is another good language. Python is very instructional and interactive, it is also rather lightweight.

[hammereditor²]

I know that Java is a bad language, but it's much easier for me to make .jsf stuff because I already know Java, and JSF provides a link between a Java application and a web site.
For the web control panel, I'm planning to make the web application a front-end for the existing control panel server. It will kind of act like the HHCP client, except it's on a webpage.

[Lugnut]

hammereditor

it sounds like it's time to learn a new language

i suggest learning javascript. now, i know everyone is gonna hate that suggestion, but hear me out

1: similar syntax to torquescript - easy learning
2: compatible with node.js - server sided software, gaining popularity fast
3: allows you to use a library called socket.io server and client sided - premade crap, just plug and play

google html5 websockets for more info on them. the above will make your job almost painfully easy.

[Port]

i suggest learning javascript.

1: similar syntax to torquescript - easy learning
2: compatible with node.js - server sided software, gaining popularity fast
3: allows you to use a library called socket.io server and client sided - premade crap, just plug and play

google html5 websockets for more info on them. the above will make your job almost painfully easy.

this.

[MARBLE MAN]

Woo learn ruby and make a rails website!

[hammereditor²]

Okay. I've decided to use JavaScript in HTML5, along with WebSockets. It seems a lot easier to do than .jsf.
I will first do a proof-of-concept test to make sure this works.
On the web page, the client presses the 'Connect' button, and sends text over the socket. The WebSocket server, which is made out of Java, echoes the response back. The client then displays the response in a text area.

[Rub]

Suggest you use socket.io instead of standard websockets, it includes support for falling back to things such as long polling AJAX for stuff browsers. RTB uses socket.io + nodejs for the live streaming aspects of the control panel, great to work with.

[Subpixel]

You should learn Php. It's easy, you can do some great stuff with it.

[hammereditor²]

Suggest you use socket.io instead of standard websockets, it includes support for falling back to things such as long polling AJAX for stuff browsers. RTB uses socket.io + nodejs for the live streaming aspects of the control panel, great to work with.

I'm going to keep everything simple instead of doing things the best way, and spending 50% more time. I don't care if old web browsers from 2011 or before cannot support WebSockets and can only use HTTP / Comet crap.
I think my clients should be glad since they would be able to access the control panel from their smartphone instead of just at a desktop computer.

[$trinick]

I'm going to keep everything simple instead of doing things the best way, and spending 50% more time. I don't care if old web browsers from 2011 or before cannot support WebSockets and can only use HTTP / Comet crap.
I think my clients should be glad since they would be able to access the control panel from their smartphone instead of just at a desktop computer.

Smartphones support websockets/socket.io. The RTB control panel loads fine on my phone, aside from some layout problems. Streaming works, too.