Author Topic: "Meanwhile In Syria"  (Read 27773 times)

From my understanding congresses vote on Syria was postponed?


i find it funny there's some people thinking that there will be nuclear war

it's not who's brave enough to start it, but rather someone who's insane enough to

Well the war could just turn into a ground war if Russia and NATO fight. Nukes might could be launched to end the stalemate or be fired when one's forces are closer to the other's capital. Assuming we stay far away as possible, there will be no big war.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2013, 09:42:31 AM by Harm94 »

any nation with nukes WILL use them if their homeland is invaded. its not some far off sick fantasy. the idea of blowing the forget out of each other's cities isnt outdated and irrational.
they exist to deter destruction of their own country. all nuke owning countries are pretty open about using them.

Atleast Obama promised he won't be sending troops into Syria

even though his promises don't count for stuff

Atleast Obama promised he won't be sending troops into Syria
Really? I heard there was going to be a "Limited" presence on the ground. That could mean anything :s

We are entering the Vietnam war all over again, going to MOST likely be fighting a war that ain't ours, and stuff hits the fan.

So lemme try have some discussion on this matter.

• Russian interests in Syria:

The Syrian city of Tartus happens to be home to the only Russian naval base in the Mediterranean, allowing them continuous naval presence in the area. Without it the entire sea would essentially be dominated by NATO members, and Russian influence in the Middle East would drop. It's in Russian interests to keep Assad's regime in power, as otherwise their naval influence could be seriously hindered.

• To the mentions about US interests in Syrian oil:

This seems very improbable. Just look at Libya, which has about 25% more oil production than Syria, and definitely would have presented an easier target if the aim was to capture oil. The last time I checked, US wasn't in control of Libyan oil. (Besides, US still has a huge oil production of its own, in addition to Western oil companies dominating Iraqi oil production)

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People should be careful when making statements about the situation in Syria. The country is in war, and certain information is hardly available as there isn't much room for any 'independent' media networks.

As far as the gas strike goes, I'd say the most solid evidence and information at the moment is from Doctors Without Borders, confirming that there has been a chemical strike, however the organization has clarified that there is no clear indication or information on the origin of the strike, as also reportedly said in the UN report regarding war crimes in Syria. Sure, it is known that Assad does possess chemical weapons, but knowing the country is a clusterforget makes it entirely feasible that other factions might have access to these kinds of weapons. (hell, they could even be smuggled from god knows where)

The gas reportedly used in the strike was sarin, which is relatively easily available. Ever heard of the gas attack on a Tokyo subway in 1995? The dude also used sarin. Makes it all the more tougher to pinpoint the origin of the strike in Syria.

I'm pretty doubtful that US intelligence has some kind of secret superreliable info showing beyond reasonable doubt that Assad's regime performed the strike, if even UN with investigators in the area isn't certain of the origin of the strike. Intelligence agencies like CIA rely mainly on informants, and there's no way they will be 100% reliable, especially during a war.

As an endnote, I hope the arrangement to set Assad's chemical weapons under surveillance works out, as based on the information available, threats towards his regime on grounds of having performed a chemical strike seem unfounded at the moment. (Not like there isn't a stuffpile of other reasons to attack his regime ... though bear in mind those opposing the gov't aren't exactly angels either. War is war and the groups fight for their own interests.)


tl;dr: never ever put cologne on your balls

you guys who think its about having more oil are all dumb.
the US has plenty of oil. we nearly make enough just for ourselves now.

its about protecting the petro dollar. the US controls how the entire world buys and sells it.
libya, iraq, syria all were selling oil (or planning to) for gold or chinese currency.
all 3 were planning to create a new gold standard to escape the US's world reserve currency.

these are the real reasons they got forgeted up. because the moment the world buys oil with anything but USD, the USD will crash.

venezuela and iran are likely next, as they plan the same thing.

Atleast Obama promised he won't be sending troops into Syria

even though his promises don't count for stuff
forget dude calm the loving stuff forget down forgeter stuff ass rooster

forget dude calm the loving stuff forget down forgeter stuff ass rooster
Waiter! do you have any more sides cause I think I lost mine?

Atleast Obama promised he won't be sending troops into Syria

even though his promises don't count for stuff
he also promised to send troops if Syria used chemical weapons.

he broke his first promise by making a new promise because he was put on the spot

I think this has a lot to say about our current system of government, we're now the opposite of speak softly and carry a big stick, we're speak loudly and carry an abort button


I like walk softly and carry a big gun.

Meanwhile North Korea forces prepare for the upcoming battle.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2013, 05:28:51 PM by Harm94 »

no worries, US and Russia just agreed how to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons peacefully

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/14/politics/us-syria/