Author Topic: Do I deserve to be grounded?  (Read 12542 times)

Oh god not YOU.
stop trying to be the know it all mature adult
Excuse me, I'm not trying to be a know it all. It's more like you to behave like this.
in this modern world (assuming you dont live in a third world country), a large majority of people have access to a mobile phone, 99% of mobile phones have some sort of calculation tool.
True, however some of the applications are limited, you can't use it during classes and you have to know how to work the problem out yourself.
Saying you shouldn't rely on calculators is like saying you need to walk to work every day because one day your car might break down and you won't be able to use it.
That's a horrible brown townogy. I'm not saying you CAN'T use calculators, but you do need to learn how to solve equations without them.
We have technology, and not using it defeats the purpose of having it.
Technology isn't supposed to just let us type in problems without knowing how to work it out yourself. That's just lazy. Now, if you DO know how to solve an equation and you have limited time, you can use a calculator. But if you can solve it in a minute, why not do it yourself?
Not to mention, trying to do trig or higher level math without some form of calculation device, one problem could easily take you hours.
Now this, I agree with. Some problems CAN take a long time to compute, however you shouldn't use a calculator to just multiply 2 numbers or something like that.
If you don't have a cellphone then you're living in the past or amish. Who doesn't have a cellphone?
I can do algebra and trig in my head. I just can't do arithmetic.
I don't know, what if someone is someplace or in a situation that you can't have one around?
Ok lets stop using windows as an OS. We need to get used to using MS DOS instead because its more of a pain in the ass to use and not as convenient. forget kid its a simple convenience that is meant to make our lives easier so we can do work quicker. In most cases you can solve a math problem quicker with a calculator then without, therefore being able to get work done faster and making life easier.
I'm not condoning calculators, but you have to know how to solve an equation for work, school and any situation that requires knowledge of solving solutions.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2013, 04:57:10 PM by Acerblock »

yeah you should feel embarrassed for having to use a calculator for simple division/multiplication.  you don't have to do it all in your head, sometimes i do it by hand just because getting out a calculator tool is too much time for me and i'd rather just show work too.  granted you're right that in the real world people just use calculators to do stuff like that quickly but knowing and practicing basic math should be something you have down.

as far as "deserving" to be grounded, yeah sure, you failed a quiz.  your only A's are whatever classwork/homework you have (in later years these do jack stuff but bump you up a bit).

stop trying to be the know it all mature adult

in this modern world (assuming you dont live in a third world country), a large majority of people have access to a mobile phone, 99% of mobile phones have some sort of calculation tool.

Saying you shouldn't rely on calculators is like saying you need to walk to work every day because one day your car might break down and you won't be able to use it.

We have technology, and not using it defeats the purpose of having it.

Not to mention, trying to do trig or higher level math without some form of calculation device, one problem could easily take you hours.
wow that was quick.  back so soon already?  here you go again with the "IN THUH REEL WORLD" rhetoric, like holy stuff we get it you're euphoric because of your own intelligence.

If you don't have a cellphone then you're living in the past or amish. Who doesn't have a cellphone?
Me, because then its one less distraction in class and one less expensive thing to get broken.

And also I only live on one income

Technology isn't supposed to just let us type in problems without knowing how to work it out yourself. That's just lazy. Now, if you DO know how to solve an equation and you have limited time, you can use a calculator. But if you can solve it in a minute, why not do it yourself?

Please, inform me how to calcuate sin(0.5) without using a calculator. Please, tell me how an engine works. Please, tell me how a nuclear reactor works.

Technology's purpose is to take the pressure of having to do it yourself off of you. That's what every loving tool in the world does. Right now I'm in statistics and you can either calculate a standard deviation of a frequency distribution using or by typing the data into your calculator. Sorry, but I'm going to type it into my calculator every time. Even using my calculator for arithmetic, it takes me 20 minutes a problem just to calculate the answer.

lol@ jazz already being back. how embarrassing

anyway teachers usually love telling you how the real world is when they don't really know. being able to do the basics in your head can't hurt, but beyond that i don't see where you're going to need to.

Honestly, I think that instead of grounding you, you should have been forced to write your multiplication tables (2's - 12's) I think that multiplication and division is a necessity. Division is just the opposite of multiplication basically. 

Just because we have something it doesn't mean we have to depend on it all our lives. Learning some stuff without a calculator won't kill you, and it'll help your problem solving skills for when technology can't help you.

Please, inform me how to calcuate sin(0.5) without using a calculator. Please, tell me how an engine works. Please, tell me how a nuclear reactor works.

Technology's purpose is to take the pressure of having to do it yourself off of you. That's what every loving tool in the world does. Right now I'm in statistics and you can either calculate a standard deviation of a frequency distribution using or by typing the data into your calculator. Sorry, but I'm going to type it into my calculator every time. Even using my calculator for arithmetic, it takes me 20 minutes a problem just to calculate the answer.
You didn't read every word I said, I am not condoning calculators at all. If it IS a difficult problem to solve, yeah, you can use a calculator to help you. But if you can solve a problem by yourself, do it yourself.

Uh, that's not a good method for life. You need to learn how to work out equations by yourself. You can't just rely on a couple of buttons and a processor.
Are you serious? You must not be in high school because calculators are a must-have in algebra and many science courses, such as chem and physics.

Magic:

PROBLEM: You do not know what 6 x 7 is.

You know 6 x 2 = 12

So, if you add 12 + 12 you will get 24, aka 6 x 4.

Do this repeatedly, until you find 6 x 7.

Magic:

PROBLEM: You do not know what 6 x 7 is.

You know 6 x 2 = 12

So, if you add 12 + 12 you will get 24, aka 6 x 4.

Do this repeatedly, until you find 6 x 7.
6 x 7 should be implanted in your brain...

Are you serious? You must not be in high school because calculators are a must-have in algebra and many science courses, such as chem and physics.
Did I not just say use a calculator for complex equations.

do you not know how to long multiply or divide yet or what

or should we teach you your multiplication skills

Please, tell me how an engine works. Please, tell me how a nuclear reactor works.
well you see, the engine of a car turns gasoline into "motion" usually by burning it and causing "combustion"
the principle is that if you put something with lots of energy in a teeny tiny living space, the energy released will be that much greater. (sucking through a tight straw is easier than a big straw)

essentially inside the car, it lets gasoline in a small tank, where a piston forces it in a tiny space, which ignites the gasoline, pushing the piston down, and propels the car and releases exhaust.

nuclear reactors just use its nuclear heat to turn water into vapor and uses that vapor to spin turbines
and creates electricity.


you should at least know basic multiplication before using a calculator

if you need technology to do everything for you, how do we know that you're using technology/robotics
to be posting on these forums RIGHT NOW?
« Last Edit: September 14, 2013, 05:17:42 PM by The Resonte! »

Calculators are pretty much required for Algebra and other subjects, however learning things without technology cannot hurt you. Also, most the people I know (including myself) don't know my times tables like instant, I can answer most times tables within 5 seconds however I find myself counting, which is absolutely fine imo.


6 x 7 should be implanted in your brain...

In the OP he specifically said he could not memorize 6 x 7