Clearing up some things

[Madmole]

i dont know why you posted this awaiting for an intelligent debate in a game thats largely ran by a teenage fanbase thats pumped up with hormones that could fill a swimming pool

i swear, you made this just to get reactions from those with strong religious beliefs.

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[Lalam24]

i dont know why you posted this awaiting for an intelligent debate in a game thats largely ran by a teenage fanbase thats pumped up with hormones that could fill a swimming pool

i swear, you made this just to get reactions from those with strong religious beliefs.

Based on what, speculative nonsense that you cannot backup because it's inconsistent with the only source of credibility for what's written in the OP?

I know many people here have the competence to debate things civilly.  Just as mysteroo did accouple of posts ago.

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[Raidensecond]

Whoa thats kinda cool ....... But now im scared since you kinda said nothing is for sure True and that kinda means anything is possible

[Waru]

you act like there isnt a topic on this trash every month, lalam

[Madmole]

Based on what, speculative nonsense that you cannot backup because it's inconsistent with the only source of credibility for what's written in the OP?

I know many people here have the competence to debate things civilly.  Just as mysteroo did accouple of posts ago.

of course its speculative

the only thing i have to go on is the source, and if you were stirring up stuff i'd doubt you'd write it in the OP.

[Lalam24]

you act like there isnt a topic on this trash every month, lalam

There's people going out of there way to throw everyone who disagrees with them under the bus topics, I hardly see ones which address the situation without ad hominem, which my original post only does in one portion, stating the unnecessary amount of people being threatened by judaism is a base of stupid paranoia (which was almost entirely directed at /pol/, but some people here seem to follow through with it).

of course its speculative

the only thing i have to go on is the source, and if you were stirring up stuff i'd doubt you'd write it in the OP.

What about it screams to you I'm out to stir stuff up?

What I find funny is that, instead of most people here actually debating it, they're attacking its existence and its motive.  If the motive is stated otherwise and you have nothing to backup a counter argument, why don't you just ignore it and move along, or actually focus on the topic's intent?

[Momentum]

thank you

[Raidensecond]

if you are so good at clearing up things then clear up my life

[Mysteroo]

From what I've read it's different, but you could definitely be correct.  However loveual preferences for the same love don't seem to actual be choice related, considering loveual attraction itself isn't a choice.

Well that's why I said that it might not be a conscious choice so much as it may be something you have control over. Like addiction to games- people don't choose to be addicted but they have more than enough control over it. That kind of thing isn't a physical characteristic, I think it's the same kind of thing with homoloveuality.

Polytheistic beliefs which entire civilizations followed existed for far longer than our common monotheistic religions.

Many polytheistic religions are very old, no doubt. But beyond a few hundred years I've always really questioned how valid our dating of things can be. There have been more than one time where someone has sent things to organizations that will date things for you, and they've been way off. Judaism is extremely old, and by some sources I've read that it is considered the first formal religion to appear ever- not just the first monotheistic religion.

You can test both of them in real time. We have specific data suggesting gene mutation over thousands of years/species differentiation is all you really need for evolution.  The big bang theory is the same way, we can test certain aspects of the universe expanding through the site of certain colors the further we look out.  I forgot the specifics, but I'm sure I could find it if I looked hard enough.  They're both theories, though.  It isn't just some mass delusion.

Exactly, we can look at data and see things that suggest the two may have happened, but we can't test the theories themselves. And a theory is something you can test, you just can't test evolution. There's just no way. Mutation has happened over thousands of years sure, but we don't have any way to prove that those mutations ever led to changes on the scale evolution suggests.

But by no means am I saying that they're stupid or a "mass delusion." It's a valid hypothesis, but I don't think they can really be called a theory.

[Lalam24]

Well that's why I said that it might not be a conscious choice so much as it may be something you have control over. Like addiction to games- people don't choose to be addicted but they have more than enough control over it. That kind of thing isn't a physical characteristic, I think it's the same kind of thing with homoloveuality.
Many polytheistic religions are very old, no doubt. But beyond a few hundred years I've always really questioned how valid our dating of things can be. There have been more than one time where someone has sent things to organizations that will date things for you, and they've been way off. Judaism is extremely old, and by some sources I've read that it is considered the first formal religion to appear ever- not just the first monotheistic religion.
Exactly, we can look at data and see things that suggest the two may have happened, but we can't test the theories themselves. And a theory is something you can test, you just can't test evolution. There's just no way. Mutation has happened over thousands of years sure, but we don't have any way to prove that those mutations ever led to changes on the scale evolution suggests.

But by no means am I saying that they're stupid or a "mass delusion." It's a valid hypothesis, but I don't think they can really be called a theory.

The existence of egyptian gods and goddesses were certainly around for longer than judaism.

Technically seeing the development of different cultures based on environment and location is evidence of evolution.  Sherpa's having the climate adaptation for the thinner air is a good example.

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i can't think of a single legitimate reason to post this here

[Lalam24]

i can't think of a single legitimate reason to post this here

For intellectual debate?

Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.

[Waru]

There's people going out of there way to throw everyone who disagrees with them under the bus topics, I hardly see ones which address the situation without ad hominem, which my original post only does in one portion, stating the unnecessary amount of people being threatened by judaism is a base of stupid paranoia (which was almost entirely directed at /pol/, but some people here seem to follow through with it).
What about it screams to you I'm out to stir stuff up?

What I find funny is that, instead of most people here actually debating it, they're attacking its existence and its motive.  If the motive is stated otherwise and you have nothing to backup a counter argument, why don't you just ignore it and move along, or actually focus on the topic's intent?

everyone is attacking its existence and motive because nobody wants this thread to exist. we have these debates all the time and just because you worded it to make you seem like some intellectual gentleman doesn't change anything.

additionally i didn't say you were "out to stir stuff up." don't just make assumptions.

[Lalam24]

everyone is attacking its existence and motive because nobody wants this thread to exist. we have these debates all the time and just because you worded it to make you seem like some intellectual gentleman doesn't change anything.

additionally i didn't say you were "out to stir stuff up." don't just make assumptions.

Why don't you want the thread to exist?  I don't get it, how in the world does it affect you negatively for someone to want to gather knowledge and information based on other ideologies which oppose theirs?

I was referencing the people prompting this argument as a whole, not you specifically.