Hammereditor attacks RTB servers - The discussion thread

[AdinX]

my feelings of hammer went from "I have nothing against him" to "Wow, what an starfish" in a split second.

It's especially funny because I was on Big Brother's server, with Ephi, and hammer was casually mentioned like no big deal. Now I can see why Ephi really doesn't like him lol

[Ad Bot]

[Lugnut]

There goes any last shred of respect I had for him.
HE DIDN'T EVEN USE A VPN/PROXY TO TRY TO COVER HIS TRACKS, plus his sarcasm & hyperbole detector is FUBAR.

he's actually way too clever for this stuff.

there's three ways this could have actually went down
1: ephi fakes the logs. there is no way to verify this is happening on our end, nor is there any way to prove it happened
2: someone spoofed hammer's ip; this is possible and not very hard (see the "background section") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing
3: hammer actually tried to dos ephi's servers using his home connection, which somehow managed to actually cause lag.
4. someone else launched a DDoS (yes, distributed) at ephi, using hammer's ip, to cause hammer to get banned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack#.28S.29SYN_flood

I don't think hammer is stupid enough nor malicious enough for #3.
We have no way to prove or disprove #1
2 and 4 are almost the same, but, in my opinion, the most likely.

[Nasoa]

[Blockzillahead]

Out of all the people who own hosting services, hammer was usually the quietest. Guess he decided to follow in Kalphiter's steps.

[Theepicman]

Out of all the people who own hosting services, hammer was usually the quietest. Guess he decided to follow in Kalphiter's steps.

Plot twist: Hammereditor is only online when Kalphiter is offline Kalphiter and Kalphiter is offline when Hammereditor is online.

[Lugnut]

he's actually way too clever for this stuff.

there's three ways this could have actually went down
1: ephi fakes the logs. there is no way to verify this is happening on our end, nor is there any way to prove it happened
2: someone spoofed hammer's ip; this is possible and not very hard (see the "background section") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing
3: hammer actually tried to dos ephi's servers using his home connection, which somehow managed to actually cause lag.
4. someone else launched a DDoS (yes, distributed) at ephi, using hammer's ip, to cause hammer to get banned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack#.28S.29SYN_flood

I don't think hammer is stupid enough nor malicious enough for #3.
We have no way to prove or disprove #1
2 and 4 are almost the same, but, in my opinion, the most likely.

I can't think of anyone who would want to frame hammer though, so idk

[Stocking]

I can't think of anyone who would want to frame hammer though, so idk

9:05 PM - Ephialtes: i framed hammer to sabotage bl cloud
9:06 PM - Ephialtes: its better coded than rtb and its only a matter of time before it takes over

[Lugnut]

hory sheet stawkin

epik lawgs

[Kalphiter³]

1: ephi fakes the logs. there is no way to verify this is happening on our end, nor is there any way to prove it happened
2: someone spoofed hammer's ip; this is possible and not very hard (see the "background section") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing
3: hammer actually tried to dos ephi's servers using his home connection, which somehow managed to actually cause lag.
4. someone else launched a DDoS (yes, distributed) at ephi, using hammer's ip, to cause hammer to get banned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack#.28S.29SYN_flood

1) Ephialtes usually makes us rely on his word without even attempting to prove himself. [1] [2] I'll make sure his story is consistent in another post.
2) Assuming the logs are completely truthful, no. If it reaches the ESTABLISHED or TIME_WAIT phases, it couldn't have been spoofed.
3) Ephialtes claims it was the connection limit for the HTTP server. That same limit also gave me problems at one point when Pacnet did the same kind of attack.
4) Read 2

[Caribou]

It is too bad that Hammer did this, he shouldn't of done this. I think he'd be very upset if someone messed up his servers.

[Raven¢roft]

It is too bad that Hammer did this, he shouldn't of done this. I think he'd be very upset if someone messed up his servers.

Thanks for stating the obvious as usual Caribou.

[.::Taboo::.]

It is too bad that Hammer did this, he shouldn't of done this. I think he'd be very upset if someone messed up his servers.

"man people sure do feel stuffty when stuffty things happen to them, huh"

he's actually way too clever for this stuff. you are giving him way more credit

there's three i count four l2p noob ways this could have actually went down
1: ephi fakes the logs. there is no way to verify this is happening on our end, nor is there any way to prove it happened unlikely, ephi's a douche but he's not... evil? or something? because yeah that'd be beyond just being an ass to somebody, that's intentionally sullying their (already super dirty) reputation
2: someone spoofed hammer's ip; this is possible and not very hard (see the "background section") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing moderately likely but not terribly plausible, simply because it's hammer
3: hammer actually tried to dos ephi's servers using his home connection, which somehow managed to actually cause lag. pretty certain what's stated is true, ephi's explanation of the situation was at the very least functionally doable and within hammer's, uh, doability
4. someone else launched a DDoS (yes, distributed) at ephi, using hammer's ip, to cause hammer to get banned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack#.28S.29SYN_flood most unlikely, that's way more work than it's worth
most important to consider is adin's ~testimony~ at the top of the page, claiming to witness hammer bragging about it in ephi's face

[lolz??]

This will be interesting when hammer gets on here

[Nal]

This will be interesting when hammer gets on here

He's banned

[bejacks]

He's banned

He's getting a new key.