US Troops Could Potentially Stay in Afghanistan Until 2024

[Mister Cheese]

Afghanistan is an ugly mess right now, this video on vice how bad it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI

Also kind of interesting and sad for a nation to have a higher standard of living at one point and then revert to a more primitive state.
Even the archaeology community was hit hard when the Taliban blew up this giant Buddha statue, now the Egyptian government wants to do the same with the pyramids.

Egypt
You're fired from breathing

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[Pandan]

ITT: channeling what your parents told you.

I hope everyone who voted did it because they wanted to vote for a particular person. And not just following what ever people say on the internet.
I actually didn't vote this last election. Because Rommdur and Obamdung both looked dumb to me.

[Harm94]

Thanks for reminding me to vote for xXweedlordJerryJansen420Xx of the liborteran partay Pandan.

[Tokerovin]

Can we just drop some nukes on the middle east and NK and get this apocalypse over with already?

[Harm94]

Can we just drop some nukes on the middle east and NK and get this apocalypse over with already?

There is not a single mud house worth nuking over there.

[ShadowsfeaR]

yemen, uganda, libya

and upkept the original 2.

he tried VERY hard to do yet another one in syria, but russia slapped him down.

I'd like to bring this back to you, Bisjac, since the other topic was locked. Those aren't even wars. Armed conflicts where the president sent troops over, but not wars. The last official declaration of war was WWII. Everything else was armed troops authorized and/or funded by Congress to be sent over to foreign countries for "peacekeeping". Even the Vietnam War wasn't an actual war. If you're speaking from a vague definition of war by the US, then sure, but literally no.

[Bisjac]

I'd like to bring this back to you, Bisjac, since the other topic was locked. Those aren't even wars. Armed conflicts where the president sent troops over, but not wars. The last official declaration of war was WWII. Everything else was armed troops authorized and/or funded by Congress to be sent over to foreign countries for "peacekeeping". Even the Vietnam War wasn't an actual war. If you're speaking from a vague definition of war by the US, then sure, but literally no.

obama doesn't call them war. because legally congress has to approve of war. but that's the loophole of the war on terror. the fight can move anywhere at the presidents whim. without the consent of congress.
even Iraq was done this way. so technically by your definition of warm we never engaged with Iraq, it was all like a dream.

if we had an uprising in the us. or local american terrorists causing trouble at home. and Russia or china out of the goodness of their heart sent in food and medical aid and weapons and troops to train anf support us in that fight. you sure as hell would be calling it an invasion.
we aren't special for helping ourselves into other countries with our military,

its all war. regardless of how they sugarcoat it with new terms.

[Caribou]

I'd like to bring this back to you, Bisjac, since the other topic was locked. Those aren't even wars. Armed conflicts where the president sent troops over, but not wars. The last official declaration of war was WWII. Everything else was armed troops authorized and/or funded by Congress to be sent over to foreign countries for "peacekeeping". Even the Vietnam War wasn't an actual war. If you're speaking from a vague definition of war by the US, then sure, but literally no.

I don't really know where you got your definition for war, but any time where we send our troops overseas to countries and start killing people; that is war.

[Jairo]

but any time where we send our troops overseas to 3rd world countries

so germany's invasion of poland doesn't count?

[SailorMan]

Wow, big surprise, I always knew my future career would bring me there.

[Muslim]

we really need to find a way to resurrect George Washington

why

what's so great about washy

they dont call him washy for nothing you know

[sir dooble]

Also kind of interesting and sad for a nation to have a higher standard of living at one point and then revert to a more primitive state.
Even the archaeology community was hit hard when the Taliban blew up this giant Buddha statue, now the Egyptian government wants to do the same with the pyramids.

For me, personally, one of the most upsetting things about the wars in the middle east and the uprisings in North Africa is the destruction and theft of so many relics and ruins.

It's been a massive loss to the study of antiquity.
There's so much from those civilisations yet discovered. So much of it has been lost to the sands and cultures over the last 6000 years, and what has happened to survive it now gets destroyed by missiles, rebel armies and thieves.

I was disgusted during the Egyptian uprising when Egyptian citizens in Cairo ransacked their own National History museum and stole and destroyed countless Egyptian artefacts.
And the British Museums had only just started to return them to Egypt, as good will favours and to return some of their culture.

[ShadowsfeaR]

I don't really know where you got your definition for war, but any time where we send our troops overseas to 3rd world countries and start killing people; that is war.

An official declaration of war as defined in the constitution. Yeah sure any "major conflict" is a "war" but is not recognized as an official war in government unless approved by the Congress. What you usually see is the president using his power of the military and sending troops, but he has 60-90 days to notify Congress. Congress has the power to recall the troops (which they practically never do), or they can condone it (they usually do). They've only declared war 5 times in US history.

[Caribou]

so germany's invasion of poland doesn't count?

Of course it does, also I edited what I said about it being exclusively about 3rd world countries, I used incorrect terminology.

An official declaration of war as defined in the constitution. Yeah sure any "major conflict" is a "war" but is not recognized as an official war in government unless approved by the Congress. What you usually see is the president using his power of the military and sending troops, but he has 60-90 days to notify Congress. Congress has the power to recall the troops (which they practically never do), or they can condone it (they usually do). They've only declared war 5 times in US history.

A war doesn't have to be officially declared as one, for all we know we could be in some foreign country right now killing civilians which the public doesn't even know about.

[ShadowsfeaR]

A war doesn't have to be officially declared as one, for all we know we could be in some foreign country right now killing civilians which the public doesn't even know about.

An official declaration of war as defined in the constitution.

This is basic govt. class stuff. I also even mentioned this:

If you're speaking from a vague definition of war by the US, then sure, but literally no.