Author Topic: My servers do not show up in the server list  (Read 4762 times)

-Jetz-, calling yourself "The Topic Killer", you act like you know everything there is to know about right and wrong in Blockland. Why don't you back of a little and think before you post? There is no such thing as a just ban when the victim is not breaking any explicit rules. If you were arrested without warning just because the police officer personally felt you were being a nuisance, would that be OK?
What Kalphiter says is right. Require a specific add-on, and no one will ever crash. You can choose to either get the required files or play somewhere else, no different from any other server that requires a client side mod.
You lied to the master server when posting to it, so now you aren't allowed to post to it. Sounds reasonable to me. I suggest you take it up with Badspot if you disagree. Maybe tell him to back off and think before he bans you in a PM where you spell out all your comparisons to legitimate servers. Let us know how it goes by editing it into your signature.

I don't see how any of you are shocked or confused by this. Badspot has made it more than clear that he will not tolerate v20 use. His reasoning is irrelevant, but he HAS posted it. Badspot said no, and I feel like he was pretty nice by just revoking your ability to post rather than banning your key.

Running the old version fragments the userbase and leads to unjoinable entries in the master server creating a public nuisance.

There is no such thing as a just ban when the victim is not breaking any explicit rules. If you were arrested without warning just because the police officer personally felt you were being a nuisance, would that be OK?
Badspot did warn you about this in the license agreement shown in the installation file when you want to install Blockland. I'll post the areas of the license agreement that you broke and how Badspot has the right to ban you from the game at any time.

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YOU MAY NOT: modify, translate, disassemble, reverse engineer, or decompile the Software.  Any derivative works become property of Step 1: Games.
You modified the game to allow you to post to the master server under a previous version when you have no right to do so.

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Step 1: Games reserves the right to ban you from playing Blockland online at any time for any reason and without notice.
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It doesn't matter if the ban is unfair to you, Badspot has the right to ban you at any time whatsoever the reason.


What Kalphiter says is right. Require a specific add-on, and no one will ever crash. You can choose to either get the required files or play somewhere else, no different from any other server that requires a client side mod.
Even if you are preventing V21 users from crashing, you are still modifying the game to allow you to post to the master server, and like I said above, you have no right to do so. Badspot would still ban that user from posting to the master server because it's against the license agreement to modify the game and it would harm the community by splitting it apart. Every time a V20 server topic gets posted in General Discussion, even without including a download link to V20, it gets fail-binned. The same thing applies when you post a V20 server to the master server without Badspot's consent, you can no longer post servers to the master server to prevent your trouble making from happening again.

Darn, I messed up the quote system in my previous post just by 1 typo. Sorry about that, and try to read it anyways.

Badspot did warn you about this in the license agreement shown in the installation file when you want to install Blockland. I'll post the areas of the license agreement that you broke and how Badspot has the right to ban you from the game at any time.
You modified the game to allow you to post to the master server under a previous version when you have no right to do so.
Wrong. I did not make the socalled modification we use to play v20. That would be Port. Do you feel he should be banned for doing this?
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YOU MAY NOT: modify, translate, disassemble, reverse engineer, or decompile the Software.  Any derivative works become property of Step 1: Games.You clearly do not understand what you are talking about. Allow me to explain:

If you take a quick look at the v20 release by Port, you will find the original v20 software perfectly intact and unmodified. That's right, there is no modification to the executable or any of the other core files that I am aware of. What port did, was add a few extra files that you can use to play without having to update to v21. These are called .bat-files, or shell scripts. Running one of these on Windows is equivalent to opening a Command Promt and running the executable with your own choice of parameters. This release by Port is not a modification at all, but rather an addition to the game no different than add-ons.

Your claims are completely bogus, and I highly recommend you get the facts straight from now on before you post.

I'm pretty sure that all Port did was launch the game using the well-known launcher bypass parameter. That doesn't count as a modification.

Your claims are completely bogus, and I highly recommend you get the facts straight from now on before you post.

Well, his first one was right at least; Badspot can ban you without notice and for any reason.

I'm pretty sure that all Port did was launch the game using the well-known launcher bypass parameter. That doesn't count as a modification.
Yeah pretty much. But that isn't the modification I was talking about, I am talking about this:
$version = 21;

Badspot put that in place so the master server can know what servers are from V21. If you edit that piece of code in previous versions, you are modifying (Even though it's a slight and very easy thing to do, it's still changing how the game works, aka modifying it) the game to trick the master server in believing that your server is a V21 server, when it's not. It also doesn't matter who changes this piece of code, if you host a V20 server like that, Badspot will notice.

Yeah pretty much. But that isn't the modification I was talking about, I am talking about this:
Badspot put that in place so the master server can know what servers are from V21. If you edit that piece of code in previous versions, you are modifying (Even though it's a slight and very easy thing to do, it's still changing how the game works, aka modifying it) the game to trick the master server in believing that your server is a V21 server, when it's not. It also doesn't matter who changes this piece of code, if you host a V20 server like that, Badspot will notice.
That's even less of a modification. What you are changing is a variable stored in the RAM of your computer, not the software residing on your hard drive. With your logic, using add-ons is against the license agreement because they change how the game works.

Well bottom line here is that Jorgur hosted a v.20 server and posted it to the master server. Badspot doesn't want those "Incompatible" servers on the main server list. He has even stated out warnings and other players too of the results of doing so. You'll be banned from the master server. And that is the bottom line.

Can we stop fighting now please? :)

Maybe he will let you host servers again if you stop arguing and apologize in a PM? Could be worth a try.