Author Topic: My servers do not show up in the server list  (Read 4773 times)

Pretty sure the master server automatically rejects postings from outdated servers anyway. You have to intentionally be trying to hack your way around that and post your server for this to happen.

Was there any warning?

That would be pretty harsh to do without warning.

If you think all of the "do not post old versions" posts didn't serve as a warning, you're kind of stupid.

This warning was given well before the release of v21. Pretty sure I saw it around the time of v9.

Pretty sure the master server automatically rejects postings from outdated servers anyway. You have to intentionally be trying to hack your way around that and post your server for this to happen.
"hack"

$version = 21;

"hack"

$version = 21;
When I say hack, I mean some stuffty workaround solution to a problem where you don't care what else goes wrong as long as the specific issue is out of the way. Getting around the master server blocking old, incompatible versions by lying to it is not acceptable, and this ban should have been expected.

There was a now-deleted v20 thread about a month back, where I said hosting v20 servers and posting them to the master server would likely get you banned from posting servers, then someone, I don't remember who, asked what the hell I was talking about, and told me that Badspot said he was okay with it. To whoever it was (you probably know who you are), I'm gonna leave a roostery "I told you so" here.

If you think all of the "do not post old versions" posts didn't serve as a warning, you're kind of stupid.
If you use a server add-on to reject people whose IDs aren't on a whitelist or whose clients don't send a handshake by using a client-sided add-on, then you've created an "unjoinable nuisance server" just like any other populated passworded server. Many mods like DRPG and one of Iban's servers did this.

Assuming V20 server hosts started using a handshake mod to kick out V21 users, those servers essentially become
private servers just like the ones I described above.

If you think all of the "do not post old versions" posts didn't serve as a warning, you're kind of stupid.
Read what I said above. It's not clear how being forbidden from posting about using older versions indicates what you can do with your private server.

If you use a server add-on to reject people whose IDs aren't on a whitelist or whose clients don't send a handshake by using a client-sided add-on, then you've created an "unjoinable nuisance server" just like any other populated passworded server. Many mods like DRPG and one of Iban's servers did this.

Assuming V20 server hosts started using a handshake mod to kick out V21 users, those servers essentially become
private servers just like the ones I described above.
Read what I said above. It's not clear how being forbidden from posting about using older versions indicates what you can do with your private server.
There's obviously more to the reason than the server being unjoinable. It shouldn't be too hard to infer the rest unless you're one of those people who aren't satisfied with an answer until every last detail has been spelled out so specifically that they could make the most eagle-eyed loophole-hunting lawyer tremble in fear.

His server was banned partially because it was running v20. Obviously. By running v20 on a publicly listed server, you are showing people that v20 is something that people just download and run as an acceptable alternative to Blockland as if it were no big deal, and thus encouraging them to do the same.

His server was banned partially because it was running v20. Obviously. By running v20 on a publicly listed server, you are showing people that v20 is something that people just download and run as an acceptable alternative to Blockland as if it were no big deal, and thus encouraging them to do the same.
It does not encourage V20 as an explicit alternative. If everyone understands and it is made clear that V20 is not a supported version, then it wouldn't be an alternative but rather a different way to play with old, removed features.

Whether or not it's allowed on the master server or not, I don't believe there's any way to host a public but unlisted server. If my beliefe is correct, then that's a pretty big problem.

Banning someone without warnings for hosting v20 servers is so mean... They were popular. Pffff

Whether or not it's allowed on the master server or not, I don't believe there's any way to host a public but unlisted server. If my beliefe is correct, then that's a pretty big problem.
Stop it from posting to the master? Doesn't it reject it anyways if your version isn't 21? The problem is that people are purposely cheating this countermeasure to get their server on the main list.

If you use a server add-on to reject people whose IDs aren't on a whitelist or whose clients don't send a handshake by using a client-sided add-on, then you've created an "unjoinable nuisance server" just like any other populated passworded server. Many mods like DRPG and one of Iban's servers did this.

Assuming V20 server hosts started using a handshake mod to kick out V21 users, those servers essentially become
private servers just like the ones I described above.
Read what I said above. It's not clear how being forbidden from posting about using older versions indicates what you can do with your private server.
the difference is that v20 servers will crash the game

the difference is that v20 servers will crash the game
Correct; that's a pretty bad problem. Assuming this is the big issue here, the solution is simply an add-on:
Assuming V20 server hosts started using a handshake mod to kick out V21 users,

Quote
[00:34:28] siba: Don't know if what you're doing is okay.
[00:34:49] siba: Hosting a server that crashes players.. not your fault, but the fact that it's a different version.
[00:35:01] Jorgur: there is no modification of the executables
[00:35:22] siba: ..Doesn't have to be, you're hosting a v20 server on a v21 server list.
[00:35:27] Jorgur: i know it's not ok - i was banned for a week for postin a link to it
[00:35:38] siba: I crash upon joining.
[00:35:44] siba: Not just, disconnect..
[00:35:49] siba: My Blockland breaks.
[00:35:50] Jorgur: yes, we know
[00:36:13] Jorgur: it says clearly in the title that it's a v20 server
[00:36:17] siba: I recommend a password before someone complains to you-know-who.
[00:36:31] Jorgur: i'm pretty sure he allready knows
[00:36:48] siba: He doesn't administrate the server list.
[00:36:49] siba: ..
[00:36:52] Jorgur: he doesn't scare me

His clueless stance here is most likely fake.

I banned you from the master server for hosting unjoinable nuisance servers (previous versions).  
Oh god no


-Jetz-, calling yourself "The Topic Killer", you act like you know everything there is to know about right and wrong in Blockland. Why don't you back of a little and think before you post? There is no such thing as a just ban when the victim is not breaking any explicit rules. If you were arrested without warning just because the police officer personally felt you were being a nuisance, would that be OK?

If you use a server add-on to reject people whose IDs aren't on a whitelist or whose clients don't send a handshake by using a client-sided add-on, then you've created an "unjoinable nuisance server" just like any other populated passworded server. Many mods like DRPG and one of Iban's servers did this.

Assuming V20 server hosts started using a handshake mod to kick out V21 users, those servers essentially become
private servers just like the ones I described above.
Read what I said above. It's not clear how being forbidden from posting about using older versions indicates what you can do with your private server.
What Kalphiter says is right. Require a specific add-on, and no one will ever crash. You can choose to either get the required files or play somewhere else, no different from any other server that requires a client side mod.