Author Topic: so I got a gun pointed at me today :( [da police involved]  (Read 5182 times)

Thats like saying you would trust zimmerman not to shoot you
Zimmerman was being beaten silly when he shot Martin. That's not in the least bit similar to this situation, what the forget?

someone calls you by your full name, and the first thing you do is run? Not even look who it is? This story sounds like you made a mad dash to get away from the cop.

Of course you are going to get a gun pulled on you because they don't know what they are expecting. They could of expect you to have a gun of your own.


Zimmerman was being beaten silly when he shot Martin. That's not in the least bit similar to this situation, what the forget?
Later case proven that he was unstable anyhow. Point was that he's an unstable person. And its kind of stupid to assume common sense in other people.

Later case proven that he was unstable anyhow. Point was that he's an unstable person. And its kind of stupid to assume common sense in other people.
Which is why I said
Even if he was dumb enough to shoot, it's ridiculously difficult to hit a running target.

It's like you guys don't even read what I say, half the time my arguments consist of quoting myself 4 posts ago.

Which is why I said
It's like you guys don't even read what I say, half the time my arguments consist of quoting myself 4 posts ago.
Thats cute

Did you know magazines are designed to hold more than 1 bullet? And that bullets travel faster than your legs can carry you? Or that people vary in their skills of target practice? Some are very good at it.

Its quite possible you quote yourself a lot not because we don't read them but because those little blurbs are so excellently short sighted.

Have you ever even shot a gun? Aiming at a moving target isn't like it is in video games, it's next to impossible.

I'm assuming that the guy who pointed a gun at EazyE wasn't a Navy Seal. If he did have enough training to guarantee a hit to a moving target 15 yards away, I'm fairly confident he'd also know that you can't just go shooting people for avoiding contact with you.

Have you ever even shot a gun? Aiming at a moving target isn't like it is in video games, it's next to impossible.

I'm assuming that the guy who pointed a gun at EazyE wasn't a Navy Seal. If he did have enough training to guarantee a hit to a moving target 15 yards away, I'm fairly confident he'd also know that you can't just go shooting people for avoiding contact with you.
I own and maintain several. I'd have to ask you the same question. Peoples opinion on the use of weapons vary as well as the weapon itself. It can be next to easy to next to impossible. Theres too many variants. So just because you don't think its easy doesn't seem to hold any universal application to every man and his gun on earth.

> You don't have to be a Navy Seal to be good with a gun Just putting that out there

You are stating "moving target at 15 yards away" as if you actually know. I do not and I'm taking the information from the OP at face value here. He said he was greeted by 4 men. One of them kept a gun trained on him for 5 minutes. So i am going to assume reasonably here that the gunman was fairly close. Which goes back to my point about the speed of a nicely shaped bullet.

You can't just go shooting peop-

And people have been shot in dumber situations. Again you're gauging a weaponized human being here. Its not safe enough to judge that you can just walk away from a gun trained on you.

I'm going to assume that the 4 men who greeted him when he exited the woods weren't right up against the edge of the tree line. If they had been, it would have been easy for him to exit around them. So I was being conservative when I estimated a distance of 15 yards, it was probably more like 30-40 yards so that they could see more of the treeline.

The gun was a 45 cal pistol, not a full auto m16. You can't just spray and pray to hit a target with such a weapon. You have to be able to aim and shoot with dead accuracy while accounting for wind and velocity of the target. I was being jestful when I said the man was probably not a Navy Seal, I was using the term more as a person who's highly trained with guns rather than a literal part of the military. I still stand by my claim that most people who are trained with using firearms are aware of the law surrounding them, at least enough to know that they can't just shoot at random people.



The gun was a 45 cal pistol, not a full auto m16. You can't just spray and pray to hit a target with such a weapon. You have to be able to aim and shoot with dead accuracy while accounting for wind and velocity of the target. I was being jestful when I said the man was probably not a Navy Seal, I was using the term more as a person who's highly trained with guns rather than a literal part of the military. I still stand by my claim that most people who are trained with using firearms are aware of the law surrounding them, at least enough to know that they can't just shoot at random people.
Ok fair enough. We both have different assumptions of what happened after clearing the treeline. Now lets take a look at the OP.

I would think that having had the gun trained on him for 5 minutes meant the man had time to close distance between him and the OP.

A pistol being a cqb weapon is designed specifically and for tight quartered situations. The sites on the gun in a lot of situations are more than likely going to go unused.

I'm assuming the gunman is closer to OP even with this being an outdoors situation. Unless we can have OP confirm whether or not the man closed the distance between him in the amount of time the weapon was trained on him, we're taking blind shots(snicker) in the dark for the most part.

A pistol at ample distance doesn't have to be a fully automatic assault rifle to still be lethally accurate without looking down the sites. Another reason why most handguns nowdays carry more bullets.

So to shed more light here, I'm assuming this whole thing had a distance of an estimated 8-10 feet away. This is not the matrix. A gun at that range WILL hit you. 45. caliber handguns are not that uncontrollable. Make and model of the gun is not present and again like I said weapons variate. Its not that much of a spray and pray at distances like those.

And again your claim is only based on the idea that you know the person. People with guns are commonly called unpredictable for a reason.

The OP lacks highly detailed information. More would definitely help brown townyzing the situation if its that important.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2014, 01:01:23 AM by Tayasaurus »

OP may even just be a slow runner too, or doesn't want to find out if the guy is a faster runner the hard way.

Well, the reason I was using the initial distance as the distance for my consideration was because I wouldn't have given the man time to close the gap. My reaction to having a gun pointed at me would have been to run in zigzag lines. Indeed, if the gunman was within 10 feet, I would not have run. I would have however pulled out my cellphone and called the police myself, then my lawyer. Obviously the OP didn't have that comfort though, being a minor. However, the man who pointed a loaded gun at a minor should be charged with reckless endangerment of a minor. His poor evaluation of the situation was absolutely egregious.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2014, 01:07:03 AM by $trinick »

Well, the reason I was using the initial distance as the distance for my consideration was because I wouldn't have given the man time to close the gap. My reaction to having a gun pointed at me would have been to run in zigzag lines. Indeed, if the gunman was within 10 feet, I would not have run. I would have however pulled out my cellphone and called the police myself, then my lawyer. Obviously the OP didn't have that comfort though, being a minor.


I think the OP is too vague for this to be properly solved. All that matters is how OP reacted and if we can squeeze more vivid details out of him.

The gun was a 45 cal pistol, not a full auto m16. You can't just spray and pray to hit a target with such a weapon. You have to be able to aim and shoot with dead accuracy while accounting for wind and velocity of the target. I was being jestful when I said the man was probably not a Navy Seal, I was using the term more as a person who's highly trained with guns rather than a literal part of the military. I still stand by my claim that most people who are trained with using firearms are aware of the law surrounding them, at least enough to know that they can't just shoot at random people.
.45 caliber pistol could mean anything. It could be a 7 round M1911, some glock model, or some H&K pistol, or some other brand that uses the caliber.

He could totally fire fast enough.