Something about war that bothers me.

[Swat 3]

Regardless of sides, most of the soldiers on each are just following orders to kill the enemy. I just watched a movie that took place in WWII and in the movie, one of the members of an allied team did not execute an afraid German officer -- I felt sad, because that officer had a family and the sorts.

In the end, the officer had the chance to kill an american man, but instead took him into a barn and tended to his wounds. They barely understood each other but they the officer did share pictures of his family. In the end though, he was wounded and died; the american soldier was saved by the German officer.


What I am saying is that history classes and the military channel depict the Germans who fought in the war as evil, but they are just following orders. Both sides are human beings.


I just wanted to speak my mind. War is evil and the pawns on both sides are told to hate each other.

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[Choi]

It might be different with terrorists though

[XR-7]

War is evil but sometimes necessary.

[dudeman162]

War is bad in real life.

But simulated? That's a different story.

[Muslim]

i know that national socialists were told they wouldn't be punished for not killing a jew

nobody took the offer up and didn't kill one however

[Ignotus]

i know that national socialists were told they wouldn't be punished for not killing a jew

nobody took the offer up and didn't kill one however

Citation?

[Night Fox]

that sounds familiar, what movie was it?

and "just following orders" is not an excuse. you know that what you're doing is wrong, whether or not someone else told you to do it

[ZombiLoin]

that sounds familiar, what movie was it?

and "just following orders" is not an excuse. you know that what you're doing is wrong, whether or not someone else told you to do it

topkek
do you think that we're born with concrete and unchangeable morals?

[Camel]

i know that national socialists were told they wouldn't be punished for not killing a jew

nobody took the offer up and didn't kill one however

preeeetty sure national socialists killed jews, muslim

[GhostStar]

A lot of wars are like that. But some arent.

that sounds familiar, what movie was it?

and "just following orders" is not an excuse. you know that what you're doing is wrong, whether or not someone else told you to do it

im sure the majority of the national socialists knew what they were fighting for. And they believed in what Riddler was doing. You dont have to be a complete stone hearted starfish to be the bad guy.

[XR-7]

Citation?

[Swat 3]

It might be different with terrorists though

Honestly, I think what they are doing is helping their families and their country. No one fights in a war just for the fun of it, they do it for a reason.
Honestly I think FPS companies are paid to put out propaganda against nations; Only recently China was inserted as an enemy in modern games. Haven't you noticed that the USA was never depicted as the bad guys?

that sounds familiar, what movie was it?

and "just following orders" is not an excuse. you know that what you're doing is wrong, whether or not someone else told you to do it

Yes, but if you say to your higher up "Sir, I don't like this order because it is inhumane and it hurts someone." you might as well get shot/dishonored.

This happens on both sides.


By the way the movie is named "Saints and Soldiers: Airborne Creed."

[King of the Bill]

i know that national socialists were told they wouldn't be punished for not killing a jew

nobody took the offer up and didn't kill one however

Correction: There were national socialist officers who spared jewish people they happened to like for whatever reason.
I remember a documentary book thing about some jewish girl who got spared from the usual national socialist hostility from one local national socialist guardsman guy because she reminded him of his own daughter back home.

Honestly I think FPS companies are paid to put out propaganda against nations; Only recently China was inserted as an enemy in modern games. Haven't you noticed that the USA was never depicted as the bad guys?

Not directly, I think this is more an issue of "appeal to target audience" than anything else.

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That was actually kinda funny.

[Mikoyan]

Probably because the orders the Germans had to follow were loving insane and they should've known that invading the world will get you known as the enemy? You don't HAVE to follow orders.

[Night Fox]

topkek
do you think that we're born with concrete and unchangeable morals?

if you use the excuse "just following orders," you are undeniably admitting that you knew it was wrong

Yes, but if you say to your higher up "Sir, I don't like this order because it is inhumane and it hurts someone." you might as well get shot/dishonored.

if there is the threat of death then you can run away on your own, but if you would prefer killing people to being dishonored, you're just as bad as someone who wants to kill people in the first place