Reduction in the army to Pre-World War II level

[Harm94]

Meh airforce takes jobs away. "Lets do what we did in Nam' and take boots off the ground and convince the rest of the military that is this is a good idea. We will just focus on the sky with our expensive drones." Plus you can only get so much done with drones, troops and pilots have more longevity and don't require electricity or internet to function.

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[Ceist]

Meh airforce takes jobs away. "Lets do what we did in Nam' and take boots off the ground and convince the rest of the military that is this is a good idea. We will just focus on the sky with our expensive drones." Plus you can only get so much done with drones, troops and pilots have more longevity and don't require electricity or internet to function.

last time i checked the airforce had a huge impact in vietnam

[Harm94]

last time i checked the airforce had a huge impact in vietnam

Their attacks were devastating to North Vietnamese forces which fought conventionally. The Vietkong used guerilla tactics. Your squad walks into a town and a woman throws a grenade at you, You patrol the jungle and get shot at through the bushes, step on a booby trap, ect. The North on the hand used tanks, infantry, and aircraft just like us. Plus they had a pretty big sam and flak gun network. Often they turned off radar when Wild Weasel squadrons were spotted, then turned them back on to shoot SAMs at any electronic counter measure planes and bombers.

[Ceist]

Their attacks were devastating to North Vietnamese forces which fought conventionally. The Vietkong used guerilla tactics. Your squad walks into a town and a woman throws a grenade at you, You patrol the jungle and get shot at through the bushes, step on a booby trap, ect. The North on the hand used tanks, infantry, and aircraft just like us. Plus they had a pretty big sam and flak gun network. Often they turned off radar when Wild Weasel squadrons were spotted, then turned them back on to shoot SAMs at any electronic counter measure planes and bombers.

but delivery of agent orange and napalm was carried out by the airforce to help fight against guerrilla forces. not to mention general ordnance.

[Frankie²]

put the extra funding towards nasa or something useful instead of corporate interests? hells yeah

[Port]

Why hasn't the army been separated from the government yet? Why are they still wasting money on it?

[Otis Da HousKat]

Why hasn't the army been separated from the government yet? Why are they still wasting money on it?

Wtf do you mean separated from the government? Why would they even do that?

[Cut Glass]

Why hasn't the army been separated from the government yet? Why are they still wasting money on it?

I can't tell if you are really loving stupid, or really loving stupid.

[Ceist]

Why hasn't the army been separated from the government yet? Why are they still wasting money on it?

i'm going to rephrase this statement the best way i can.
"Why hasn't the army been put under civilian leadership?" answer: because our government is civilians leadership. or supposed to be.

[Schrödinger]

Why hasn't the army been separated from the government yet? Why are they still wasting money on it?

That was one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this forum. AND IM LINKUSOFEPICA, LOOK AT 90% OF MY POSTS ON THAT ACCOUNT. I'm pretty sure we need a military in some form to deal with threats to the country.

[Threule]

Why hasn't the army been separated from the government yet? Why are they still wasting money on it?

USA's economy has always been and will always be war based.

[Muslim]

least theres not a draft

[Ipquarx]

Why hasn't the army been separated from the government yet? Why are they still wasting money on it?

Having an army separated from the government would be the worst thing ever.

[Harm94]

but delivery of agent orange and napalm was carried out by the airforce to help fight against guerrilla forces. not to mention general ordnance.

The purpose of agent orange was to kill crops and cause southern Vietnamese farmers to move to the cities. As a result many slums were erected around the cities. While napalm was effective at clearing forests, it was also dropped near or on villages. So if you are living in southern Vietnam and your village was burned down and you are living in a big stinky slum, I am sure you would have thoughts about joining the Vietkong. Plus agent orange is still causing problems in Vietnam for people such birth defects, contaminated forests and water sources, shorter life spans, contaminated wildlife, ect.

To fight an insurgency you need troops on the ground and to try and win the hearts and minds of the people. If the rebels/insurgents don't have the support of the people, then they lose legitimacy and slowly give up over time.

[Ceist]

The purpose of agent orange was to kill crops and cause southern Vietnamese farmers to move to the cities. As a result many slums were erected around the cities. While napalm was effective at clearing forests, it was also dropped near or on villages. So if you are living in southern Vietnam and your village was burned down and you are living in a big stinky slum, I am sure you would have thoughts about joining the Vietkong. Plus agent orange is still causing problems in Vietnam for people such birth defects, contaminated forests and water sources, shorter life spans, contaminated wildlife, ect.

i know this. i studied the vietnam war (remember the january 1969 thread)
but we're not talking about the affects of these two weapons, we're talking about how the airforce contributed to vietnam.
napalm, strafing runs, targeted ordnance, dropping of agent orange, etc.

going back to what you said earlier, about the north vietnamese being a more civilized military, their air force was stuff in comparison, poorly trained pilots inside advanced aircraft calls for bad air superiorty and air-to-ground support.