Author Topic: Just when you thought people couldn't get any more sensitive...  (Read 8491 times)

"Bossy"?
Haven't heard a girl get called "bossy" in... oh wait I have never heard a girl get called bossy in a serious way.
Don't little kids do that sort of thing for fun? Just, playful teasing?

is midget still not PC
because i really like that word and wanna keep using it without being arrested by the vocab police

I'm going to start banning for this bullstuff.  You're making everything needlessly hostile.  Every post there's some cigarette like you chiming in about how everyone's kissing my ass even if we're just having a normal conversation. 
BADSPOT FIRES THE SHOTS

In a perfect world, it's a metaphor.  In the real world...

http://www.r-word.org/

Is there not some sort of validity to this though? "handicap" isn't the worst word ever, but I can understand how it can be offensive to some people. My cousin is autistic and his parents are very sensitive about the word. My school participates in the "Spread the Word to End the Word" program every year, which is basically set forth to end use of the word handicap. The special needs kids take part in the event and have voiced their opinions about it in person.

The argument against bossy is weak, but I think the playing field is even with handicap. Just my thoughts.

EDIT: Although I don't think we should fully censor handicap. I agree with Badspot in saying political censorship is dumb. I just think the use of some words should be considered in certain company.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2014, 07:51:36 PM by Mega-Bear »


It's already hitting media right now. Msn is doing something stupid and i'm pretty sure chan and reddit are all over it, worse that what we're saying.

Here's my own personal edge on this 'Ban Bossy' movement: I'm 16 years old, so I'm young enough to remember being a part of the elementary school age group this movement talks about, and I'm /hopefully/ old enough to construct a coherent argument against it.

The 'Ban Bossy' movement argues that we should ban the word 'bossy' from our collective vocabulary so that we do not impede (young women, specifically) people from becoming leaders. I'm all for women's rights and gender equality in the United States, and I participate in a feminist alliance club at my High School, but this movement is nit-picking and tone-policing stretched to the extreme. The idea that women are prevented from being leaders in society because people allegedly call girls 'bossy' in elementary school is a gross oversimplification of a complex social issue involving multiple social and cultural factors. This theory that if our society bans this word young women will grow up to be better leaders is a distraction from real social issues affecting women today.

First and foremost, 'leadership' is not a thing in elementary schools. When I went through the elementary school grades, the extent my student-to-student interaction involved sports, games, and other usual stuff that kids do. In the classroom, we'd take tests and learn math and write essays and that was that. When people needed help or redirection, the teacher was generally responsible for that. There were no opportunities for 'student leadership' because it's a loving elementary school. What I believe the article refers to as 'leadership' are the kids at my elementary school who would try to play teacher and tell an adult every time one of us threw a rock or poked someone in the eye with a sharp stick. Naturally, they weren't very popular since it pissed people off. They were labeled 'bossy' because they asserted authority over people who they didn't technically have authority over. But the most important point I want to make is that 'bossiness' is gender-neutral. The kids who were labeled bossy in my elementary school weren't strictly female or male, they were just annoying kids trying to enforce playground-style martial law on others.

I gtg, and I'll continue this rant later.

The funny thing is that some of the most influential people in the world are women
EDIT: Also that "r-word" thing is dumb as stuff. Mental handicapation is an actual medical term.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2014, 07:54:32 PM by Skull Candy »

What does anyone behind this movement expect this to accomplish?

Ban the word "bossy" and let women take over lead.

Or parents can be parents for once and actually talk to their kids about it.

What does anyone behind this movement expect this to accomplish?
they can tell their friends about how progressive they are

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Is there not some sort of validity to this though? "handicap" isn't the worst word ever, but I can understand how it can be offensive to some people. My cousin is autistic and his parents are very sensitive about the word. My school participates in the "Spread the Word to End the Word" program every year, which is basically set forth to end use of the word handicap. The special needs kids take part in the event and have voiced their opinions about it in person.

The problem is that the label isn't the bad thing.  Being the thing that the label refers to is what is bad.  Any word you pick is going to become an insult because no one wants to be mentally deficient.  "Moron", "idiot" and "imbecile" all started out as medical terms and degenerated into insults.   Then "handicapped" replaced them as the kind word to say and now that's wearing out.  "Autistic" is fast becoming a general insult.  There's no escape because the condition is the insult, not the label.  

If you want to remove the insult you have to address the condition - either cure it or make people sympathize and understand the afflicted.  Attacking words does nothing but encourage people to dismiss the issue.  


if we go by their logic, we should just ban the word walk because not everyone has the privilege to walk.
and we should ban talk
and see
and hear
and skinny
and fat
and even more stuff that shouldn't be slightly offensive

they can tell their friends about how progressive they are

I just wish that people would put their energy and attention into actual problems instead of this kind of garbage.