$2300 780 Ti PC Build Soon - Anyone have improvements?

[Blaze0]

Any other PC builders here? Wondering if anyone has improvements for the build I'm going to soon order/make.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Blaze17145/saved/3bEl

1440p gaming on max settings, as well as video rendering/editing. I will be overclocking.

Anyone have any improvements/tips?

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[Tokthree]

Don't cheap out on the motherboard that's gonna be going into a high-end gaming/workstation system that you're gonna OC.

[Omicron Corp]

aka $1900 dollar build without all those stuffty peripherals

its decent for the price i guess, get a better motherboard (like the gigabyte Z87X-UD4H, rocking one here) get a NH-D14 for the cpu cooler, and a 16GB pack of Crucial Ballistix RAM, power supply is overkill, if you're not planning to SLI get a ~600W PSU, if you're planning to SLI then get a ~800W PSU

[Bisjac]

anyone rdy to drop that kinda of money NOW should seriously take a thinker.

in a few months, all the new gen intel stuff is coming. ddr4 memory, and video cards that actually will use pcie-3.0 (not like how they are simply compatible now but dont use it yet)
the new chipset boards and cpu's.
and im sure amd will be doing it sooner or later then intel.

if you build your high budget comp NOW, you will be instantly outdated and unable to upgrade without completely rebuilding.
its not an issue of popping on a new part as they come. everything you have is last gen.

[Omicron Corp]

ddr4 is only popping up on the x99 enthusiast chipset which is like end of the year, it'll be a while until ddr4 actually becomes accessible and decently priced for the mainstream market

[Bisjac]

ddr4 is only popping up on the x99 enthusiast chipset which is like end of the year, it'll be a while until ddr4 actually becomes accessible and decently priced for the mainstream market

dont know what you are referring to. but this is not the mainstream market.
he clearly wants the good stuff and is ready to pay for it. im warning him not to make a hasty mistake by buying last gen stuff.
and x99 is roughly july

[Starzy]

Take bisjacs advice, he's the expert here.

[Blaze0]

aka $1900 dollar build without all those stuffty peripherals

its decent for the price i guess, get a better motherboard (like the gigabyte Z87X-UD4H, rocking one here) get a NH-D14 for the cpu cooler, and a 16GB pack of Crucial Ballistix RAM, power supply is overkill, if you're not planning to SLI get a ~600W PSU, if you're planning to SLI then get a ~800W PSU

Motherboard - Alright, I'll look into it.

Cooler - I'm using the H440 case and I'm trying to go with a streamlined white/black look. I chose the cooler for being decent while staying with the colorscheme.

Ram - Why does it matter?

PSU - Yes, I'll eventually be SLIing. And 800w is the bare minimum for SLIing 780 Tis, and add on the power consumption from overclocking.

anyone rdy to drop that kinda of money NOW should seriously take a thinker.

in a few months, all the new gen intel stuff is coming. ddr4 memory, and video cards that actually will use pcie-3.0 (not like how they are simply compatible now but dont use it yet)
the new chipset boards and cpu's.
and im sure amd will be doing it sooner or later then intel.

if you build your high budget comp NOW, you will be instantly outdated and unable to upgrade without completely rebuilding.
its not an issue of popping on a new part as they come. everything you have is last gen.

Yes, however there's always "if you wait a few months, X new part comes out that's better for the same price!" Then a few months later, "Hey, if you wait for a few months DDR4 ram will be available!."

As for the CPU, I don't think I'll be needing to upgrade it soon, especially with room to overclock, so the chipset won't be a problem for a while.
As for the video cards, I'll be buying through EVGA, so I can upgrade for the price difference at any time three months after I order the GPU.
As for the ram, consumer DDR4 ram isn't estimated to be available until around Q1 2015, because it'll need new memory controllers (CPUs) made for it, as well as DIMM (motherboard) slots made specifically for it. It probably won't effect performance too much anyways.

[Tetris]

anyone rdy to drop that kinda of money NOW should seriously take a thinker.

in a few months, all the new gen intel stuff is coming. ddr4 memory, and video cards that actually will use pcie-3.0 (not like how they are simply compatible now but dont use it yet)
the new chipset boards and cpu's.
and im sure amd will be doing it sooner or later then intel.

if you build your high budget comp NOW, you will be instantly outdated and unable to upgrade without completely rebuilding.
its not an issue of popping on a new part as they come. everything you have is last gen.

when are these expected to hit market?

[$trinick]

RAM seriously does matter. There's only a few CPU registers and everything else gets stored in RAM. Having faster (DDR4) RAM will speed up program execution by a ton because RAM is accessed almost constantly. It's easily more important than CPU clock speed.

Imagine it like this: your body is a computer. You can only remember so much stuff short term (about 7 pieces of information, similar to a computer). So, you write stuff down to remember it. Maybe you're really smart (a fast CPU clock speed) but if you write really slowly you can't do long division very quickly because your brain has to wait for you to write the next row before it can calculate the answer. Upgrading your RAM is like making you faster at writing, you write down those numbers quicker so you can calculate the answer more quickly. It doesn't matter if you're the smartest person in the world, if you take forever to write down that info to get to the next step that's a huge bottleneck.

PCI-E 3.0 is similar to this. It allows faster data transfer speeds so your GPU can calculate things faster. It's very similar to RAM, but since I just explained writing I'll explain this one as reading. If it takes you forever to read the problem, and then it takes forever for you to read each line you just wrote to calculate it, it doesn't matter if you can calculate it really fast because it'll still take a long ass time for you to read the next line to do.

Both DDR4 and PCI-E 3.0 are important because of transfer speeds which include both reading and writing. Since you're willing to shell out so much for your computer, these things will be within your reach once they're actually released. However, high end current-gen will be close to the performance of low-end future-gen, so it may not be entirely worth waiting.

It comes down to how long you can tolerate your current build. For example, I'm waiting for the iPhone 6 to come out to upgrade my iPhone 5 even though one of the buttons on my phone is broken. It's more worth it for me personally to wait for the next generation even though my current generation is deficient. If you personally can't tolerate your current build, go for the immediate upgrade. Otherwise, I'd wait.

[Omicron Corp]

PSU - Yes, I'll eventually be SLIing. And 800w is the bare minimum for SLIing 780 Tis, and add on the power consumption from overclocking.

manufacturers *always* overestimate. like, for example, the supposed minimum of the GTX Titan is 600w yet some steamboxes with i7's and Titans ship with ~450w power supplies


and the most important isn't even the wattage, its the amps from the main rail

[Blaze0]

If you personally can't tolerate your current build, go for the immediate upgrade. Otherwise, I'd wait.

I'm upgrading as soon as I can. I get TWO fps on loving MINECRAFT currently :P

[Tetris]

right when all that new stuff comes out someone needs to make a 780 Ti build

[Axo-Tak]

anyone rdy to drop that kinda of money NOW should seriously take a thinker.

in a few months, all the new gen intel stuff is coming. ddr4 memory, and video cards that actually will use pcie-3.0 (not like how they are simply compatible now but dont use it yet)
the new chipset boards and cpu's.
and im sure amd will be doing it sooner or later then intel.

if you build your high budget comp NOW, you will be instantly outdated and unable to upgrade without completely rebuilding.
its not an issue of popping on a new part as they come. everything you have is last gen.

I'm glad someone else has my opinion, except mine would be a workstation that has OpenCL (and in general) computation power.

The Titan seems like a good graphics card for that purpose.