Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

[Kingdaro]

More like passes bill allowing people to believe in what they want to believe in without being punished for it.

But you know tumblr. Fights hate with more hate.

As much as I like the idea of the bill, it's not going to really do anything. It'd do as much as a bill banning all guns would. That and it's too one-sided. I'm not into politics all that much, but I have yet to see a bill to end discrimination in general, again, like it would really do anything.

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[Tayasaurus]

The bill doesn't promoting bullying, it promotes the open practice of religion... except in the wrong settings. Public facilities shouldn't be used to send a religious message. Freedom from religion is as important as freedom of religion.

I can understand why it wouldn't be right in a classroom setting

But isn't freedom from religion more of your choice to not LISTEN to the person preaching the message? Sort of like those street-side pastors. The annoying ones.

[Mega-Bear]

I can understand why it wouldn't be right in a classroom setting

But isn't freedom from religion more of your choice to not LISTEN to the person preaching the message? Sort of like those street-side pastors. The annoying ones.

True, but when a religious message is being spoken over the school's PA system it can't exactly be ignored. Religious clubs and organizations run through the school are perfectly legal because students aren't forced to attend them, but a sermon or prayer being performed over the intercom is unconstitutional.

[Tayasaurus]

True, but when a religious message is being spoken over the school's PA system it can't exactly be ignored. Religious clubs and organizations run through the school are perfectly legal because students aren't forced to attend them, but a sermon or prayer being performed over the intercom is unconstitutional.

I agree.

[Katadeus]

Yeah um.
This definitely sucks.
I'd like to see more exact wording, but this is just dumb.

[Mouse droidz 21]

if this happened to the whole of America what would you people do?   

[Mega-Bear]

if this happened to the whole of America what would you people do?   

I could always use a little humility in my life

[SeventhSandwich]

Wow this website is biased lol

What makes people think that this bill will protect the right to "bully"? Does the bill even say bully in it or is it just raging secularists blowing things out of proportion? What makes them think that this bill will protect the "right to assault lgbt people"?

If anything i've seen more secularists bully the stuff out of Christians. AND making it hard for someone religious JUST to pray over their lunch at school under the guise of "offending" other people.

I'm sorry but I'm not going to buy so easily into soaking up every drop of leftist "bully cry" crap.

WHO would even try to share their religious messages in the middle of a class? That would be extremely awkward and break a social status quo. Good Lord people are really whiney

Wow this website is biased lol

No stuff, this community and the internet at large are mostly atheist. Why does that surprise you?

What makes people think that this bill will protect the right to "bully"? Does the bill even say bully in it or is it just raging secularists blowing things out of proportion? What makes them think that this bill will protect the "right to assault lgbt people"?

I don't support this bill, but my thinking has nothing to do with the 'bullying' it could cause. You cannot enforce an official religion in a public institution. That means you can't force people to pray in school. Luckily, current laws do not infringe upon your right to practice your /own/ religion, so feel free to pray privately.

If anything i've seen more secularists bully the stuff out of Christians. AND making it hard for someone religious JUST to pray over their lunch at school under the guise of "offending" other people.

I'm sorry, but as soon as people like you start pulling this "Oh, us poor white, marginalized Christians" speech, I can't help but point out that /most/ people are Christian, and that Christian private schools that can legally make kids pray and study scripture are the ones receiving tons of under-the-table funding through dual-enrollment programs geared towards moving public, government funding towards private religious institutions.

Also, I'm skeptical that anyone at your school bullies Christians for praying, and even if they did, making everyone else pray through legal mandate is not an okay solution.

I'm sorry but I'm not going to buy so easily into soaking up every drop of leftist "bully cry" crap.

Regardless of whether you like social equality or not, this is clear-cut stuff legislation no matter what angle you look at.

WHO would even try to share their religious messages in the middle of a class? That would be extremely awkward and break a social status quo. Good Lord people are really whiney

wow okay, lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach_the_Controversy

[Ninja Decoy]

In all honesty, the "anti-gay" thing is only a tiny part of this bill, but of course people are going to make it the biggest part.

Pretty much all it does is makes separation of church and state kinda moot (Teachers still cant force religion, but from what it looks like, students can.)

[SeventhSandwich]

Pretty much all it does is makes separation of church and state kinda moot.

Which is an awful idea and violates the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

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[Night Fox]

if this happened to the whole of America what would you people do?  

mostly wonder why the federal government got involved in something so small

[Mega-Bear]

Pretty much all it does is makes separation of church and state kinda moot (Teachers still cant force religion, but from what it looks like, students can.)

You say that like it's no big deal.

[Tayasaurus]

I'm sorry, but as soon as people like you start pulling this "Oh, us poor white, marginalized Christians" speech, I can't help but point out that /most/ people are Christian, and that Christian private schools that can legally make kids pray and study scripture are the ones receiving tons of under-the-table funding through dual-enrollment programs geared towards moving public, government funding towards private religious institutions.

First off, Lockebox is an atheist. One of the smart ones imo. Most people are not Christian because a lot of them think its just a label and thats all there is to it. Thats not exactly correct. Just because someone SAYS they are christian does not equate them with having the spirit IN them. I would know because I actually study the stuff to it.

Also, I'm skeptical that anyone at your school bullies Christians for praying, and even if they did, making everyone else pray through legal mandate is not an okay solution.
He's not in school. However a google search and various sources evidence towards school staff or a school in itself suspending Christians for praying in various locations.

Regardless of whether you like social equality or not, this is clear-cut stuff legislation no matter what angle you look at.
He's all for social equality. We both agree this bill probably takes it to an extreme.


wow okay, lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach_the_Controversy

There is nothing wrong with this and just you being an opposer to the view. whats new?

[Mega-Bear]

There is nothing wrong with this and just you being an opposer to the view. whats new?

The fact that they're trying to introduce unscientific dogma into schools and pass it off as legitimate. Creationism has no place in schools, not even in the form of "hey let's take a look at an alternate theory!"