Author Topic: Zapk Spamming  (Read 12652 times)

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=206899.0

This man got revoked for doing the exact same thing you did. I'd tred lightly if I were you.

He was revoked because he spammed a server, then in the face of solid evidence denied it?
Spamming is not, nor will it be a key-revokable action. That's not how the forums work. You can be the biggest richard on BL, you can use aimbot, spam servers, 'troll' people, but if you follow all of the rules (including the unwritten ones) then you won't get revoked. that said, I have heard that if you're a richard on Badspot's server while he's on, he'll revoke your key, but this is only coming from one source.

Had Honor not said anything at all in that thread, he wouldn't have been revoked.

@AdinX for citation on Revoke:
I had one of my keys revoked for doing similar stuff like this back in 2010 with scripts when I was a crazy psychopath. I also bragged about it, so maybe that's why I got revoked. Not sure. I just know I was revoked for it.
bragging about it would be, in a way, admittance to trolling. Your key was not revoked for in-game behavior.
Citation still needed

He was revoked because he spammed a server, then in the face of solid evidence denied it?
Spamming is not, nor will it be a key-revokable action. That's not how the forums work. You can be the biggest richard on BL, you can use aimbot, spam servers, 'troll' people, but if you follow all of the rules (including the unwritten ones) then you won't get revoked.
No. You're wrong. I know that guy in the topic, he was banned for the reason "Attacking Servers" and had all keys belonging to his IP address revoked after admitting that he had done it.

Attacking servers =/= spamming chat
Attacking a server, in most cases, means a DDoS attack. I don't see spamming chat as potentially threatening a server... You also happen to know someone who got all of their keys revoked, so I'm inclined to believe that he didn't tell you everything, paraphrased or he's throwing you a loop. Why would spamming be a key revokable refraction? All it takes is a ban and they're off the server. Honestly, I think you're missing kind of a key component:
after admitting that he had done it.
So had he not admitted to anything, he would have his keys. Unless you just miscommunicated?

Also, the "No. You're wrong." stuff is really annoying. Kinda like in the movies when the hero realizes he's been back-stabbed and everything is falling apart. "No! I don't believe you!" Try to have a more open mind maybe. Unless we're talking directly about you, and you know for a fact that you were banned for spamming, then you don't know either.

Adin, I'm not deceiving you here; Honor, the guy who got revoked in that topic, has done the exact same things that Zapk has done. Let me list it here for you:
  • Abused the fact that team chat has no flood protection to continuously spam a server's chat, rendering it practically useless until the spamming has stopped.
  • Admitted to have done the above on the blockland forums

That's all that Honor did and that's all that Zapk did. I didn't make up the attacking servers thing, that's what it said on his ban message. As I said, I was friends with Honor way back when, he showed me the ban message. I no longer keep in contact with him though.

If you have that much of a problem with how badspot words things then perhaps you should go through him not me.



I think Zapk is guilty as charged


ZapK apologized
Honor admitted
There's a substantial difference in the weight of both of those. If you admit to killing someone, you're just saying "yeah I did it! Whatcha gonna do about it?" Apologizing is flat out "I'm sorry, I was wrong, it won't happen again."
This drama has been here all day long, if Eric was gonna ban Zap, he would've banned him by now. There is SOME difference between the two incidents, and I severely doubt it's favoritism. Strictly because I don't think Badspot has any favorites. He hardly talks to any of us, let alone any of us.

Spamming is not, nor will it be a key-revokable action. That's not how the forums work. You can be the biggest richard on BL, you can use aimbot, spam servers, 'troll' people, but if you follow all of the rules (including the unwritten ones) then you won't get revoked.

People have had all their keys revoked, all their forum accounts permanently banned and been IP blocked from auth and the forum for doing exactly this.

Citation still needed
You can claim that people have been sacrificed to satan for spamming and I still wouldn't believe you
Quote someone who was banned for spamming or link to their profile or their ban or something
Where are all these in-game spammers that lost their keys?

If you admit to killing someone, you're just saying "yeah I did it! Whatcha gonna do about it?" Apologizing is flat out "I'm sorry, I was wrong, it won't happen again."
Either way, you're going in the loony bin.

It's late and I thought it would be humorous.
I've heard people say that too many times.
Each time the person pretty much was looking for an excuse to get away with trolling.

Plus, the way you said that makes me wonder if you just admitted to something. How was it humorous to spam?

Anyways, I saw your apology and I accept. Just be careful how you word your excuses.

I've heard people say that too many times.
Each time the person pretty much was looking for an excuse to get away with trolling.

Plus, the way you said that makes me wonder if you just admitted to something. How was it humorous to spam?

Anyways, I saw your apology and I accept. Just be careful how you word your excuses.
I guess it was humorous how it turned out to be so broken.

spamming a server is unacceptable, I don't know what makes any of you think that the circumstances behind it changes anything.

It was literally me showing Ostinyo how his team chat was broken. If I were actually hurting anyone he would have banned me.
That's no excuse at all. I spammed before (although it was much less than others) because Team Chat was broken. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

There were about 10 people spamming at the same time when somebody noticed the flood protection was broken. I scripted a burst to see if it worked, and it did. We were just having fun, seriously, what's the harm?
"everyone else is doing it so I'm going to do it too!"
I did the same loving thing and I learned my lesson, it's no excuse. The harm is, those who weren't spamming were getting their entire screen filled up with your bullstuff. And on a challenge, that's going to be hard to play with the spammers.

It's late and I thought it would be humorous. It only lasted for about half a second anway.
Half a second? Lol, looks like it lasted longer than that considering you got votekicked (and that takes about a minute or so). Not to mention you purposely coded a script for this matter.

Not to mention you purposely coded a script for this matter.
See, this is what I don't understand.
Why does Zapk even have a script for spamming in the first place? You ask him and he says it's easy to make, but if the script is used for spam purposes should admittance to having such a script be revokeable?
Idk it might just be me, but if I was Badspot I'd revoke people for even admitting creating a script to be used for malicious purposes. It's not 'humorous'. Saying you only used it for show isn't a good excuse either.

I know you apologized but seriously that is just strange.