Seattle raises minimum wage to $15

[Frankie²]

whats wrong with all the groups growing equally as fast?

[Ad Bot]

[Headcrab Zombie]

More people = more food to carry out = higher tip.

I tip based on the number of plates, not value of the plates

More expensive food = classier restaurant = higher tip.

Maybe if every single dish in a restaraunt was the same price. But you can't judge "classiness" of a restaurant based off the price of a dish, because they can vary immensely in price

[$trinick]

whats wrong with all the groups growing equally as fast?

That's not how money flow works. Money yields more money, there's no real way of circumventing that outside of socialism.

Maybe if every single dish in a restaraunt was the same price. But you can't judge "classiness" of a restaurant based off the price of a dish, because they can vary immensely in price

Sure, but tipping based on percentage is supposed to be a rule of thumb. You can assume that in a party of 5 or so that between everyone's order, the average price of each person's meal is approximately the average price of the menu items. Since the average price of menu items scales with restaurant (not necessarily food) quality, and since higher tip should be paid to wait staff at higher quality restaurants, it makes sense to pay tip based on the cost of the check. Otherwise it'd be difficult to figure out how much to tip-- you may tip $2 per person at Red Robin, but that same tip isn't going to work at a place with hundred dollar plates. It's simply a tool people use to calculate about how much it makes sense to tip.

[ZombiLoin]

IMO this is too much of a raise but I agree that business owners should shoulder the costs of paying workers well enough to live instead of the middle class taking up the slack and paying welfare.

[Frankie²]

That's not how money flow works. Money yields more money, there's no real way of circumventing that outside of socialism.

while having more money isnt a bad thing, at all, at some point it gets to an extreme level where there is injustice for the people that can't do anything better
if you havent watched it, elysium really puts into perspective what happens when the rich get richer and the poor, while growing, grow A LOT slower (which is happening)

[Candy Apple]

being a waiter is more than just carrying plates, too

[ZombiLoin]

you can't force people to tip unless it's included in the check. that's kinda obvious.

[Bisjac]

no, you're supposed to pay so that they can afford to live

That is an awful reason just to give someone more money.
I need to afford to live as well. Should I start adding a 20% gratuity for everything I do?

[ßlöükfáce]

My mom was a waitress for a while
She got no payment at all except from customers' tips

Because of how hard she knows it is she's generous when she tips other waiters

[ZombiLoin]

That is an awful reason just to give someone more money.
I need to afford to live as well. Should I start adding a 20% gratuity for everything I do?

well i mean you're not exactly struggling to live aren't you.

[Night Fox]

That is an awful reason just to give someone more money.
I need to afford to live as well. Should I start adding a 20% gratuity for everything I do?

if you're actually in a position to choose the prices people pay you for services, go right ahead. but chances are, in that case, you aren't working for a company that is paying you money that you can't get by on

[Menen]

This would really only affect small businesses. Large companies can afford to give their employees more money.

If walmart has the money to pay for a new Wal Mart store to be built in my home town in less than a month, plus pay off the town council members to vote on approving its construction because everyone in the town did not want a Wal-mart, then they can afford to pay their employees more

[Night Fox]

If walmart has the money to pay for a new Wal Mart store to be built in my home town in less than a month, plus pay off the town council members to vote on approving its construction because everyone in the town did not want a Wal-mart, then they can afford to pay their employees more

everyone in town doesn't matter. the economy in your town does. and the town council members know that

[Frankie²]

walmart would probably go out of business if they didnt have the gov't paying welfare for them lol
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-13/how-mcdonald-s-and-wal-mart-became-welfare-queens.html

[DrenDran]

It's significantly more for companies to dish out, which will cause the cost of everything to rise.

Additionally, by raising the wage if the lowest paid it means a semi skilled job that paid 15$/hr before is now just as stuffty as flipping burgers for minimum wage.