Author Topic: 2014 CEDA debates --- Privileged scum at Harvard defeated by social justice!  (Read 3269 times)

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/dbp6.pdf
the blacks that have opportunity in america really dont have an excuse (for the most part)
Well it's not so much about why are they struggling to develop now that they have first world county relations, it's why were they so underdeveloped when they first started having extended interaction with the Europeans a few centuries ago.

Humans supposedly started in Africa, so really they had the advantage. The fact that they were surpassed by the rest of the world raises some red flags.

I know, but I was referring to most of the countries in Asia.
Yes, that is true. All asians are the same. What difference does it make?


All asians are the same.
Isn't Saudi Arabia the complete opposite of China?

I always wondered why (assuming the races were equal) Africa and Africans never developed anywhere near as much as the rest of the world.
Is it really just because Africa lacks resources?
They require a little help/push to get some industry going. If you remove the war like component, the corrupt government component(which never goes away), and teach them basic economics and skills. Then many of the poorer African Nations could start possibly start farming more cash crops, irrigating, mining, drilling for oil, and enter the production of goods.

They require a little help/push to get some industry going. If you remove the war like component, the corrupt government component(which never goes away), and teach them basic economics and skills. Then many of the poorer African Nations could start possibly start farming more cash crops, irrigating, mining, drilling for oil, and enter the production of goods.
You realize I meant 500+ years ago when they first started interacting with Europe, right?

Isn't Saudi Arabia the complete opposite of China?
There's lots of sand in China too.

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/dbp6.pdf
the blacks that have opportunity in america really dont have an excuse (for the most part)
"Why is Africa poor?"

(8 pages).

I'm sorry, but an eight-page paper trying to answer all the socioeconomic questions about poverty in Africa is almost certainly bullstuff.

You realize I meant 500+ years ago when they first started interacting with Europe, right?
Africa was just mostly European colonies up the 1950s. Historically, The Europeans feared that if they were educated, they would rise up against them and the Europeans would lose their colonies. Post world war 2, every single European nation is in in debt from the war; So the colonies were either given independence, abandoned, or overthrown.

During the Cold War, the soviets wanted to tap into Africa's resources by trying to spread communism their. Soviets would send doctors and teachers as part of a so called humanitarian effort to win support for the USSR and to spread communism. However, the US did not like that, so through proxy wars, anti-communist groups were funded and supplied to fight communists. Eventually, the Soviets gave up and glutted the market with weapons and decided to focus their efforts else war. At this point all, the African's know is war. You have big nations full of smaller tribes which have had long and close histories of friendships and hatreds. In some nations have tribes that are the majority while the minority tribes are lower class and hate the other minority class tribes as well as the majority. Then you have a few of those African Dictators like Idi Amin who had a European educated and saw them selves as kings, then you have those warlords who only care about bring their group to power. So you have all these civil wars and ethnic cleansings because that's all they have known. Before that they were rounded up as slaves and used as servants in the colonies as lower classmen.

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This only 25% of the summary by the way. Take many histories to get the full gist of why it is the way it is today.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2014, 03:16:22 PM by Harm94 »

This only 25% of the summary by the way. Take many histories to get the full gist of why it is the way it is today.
See, at least Harm94 prefaces his explanation with this. CATO's paper presents itself as a complete history of modern Africa's economic state with no reservations other than that its only an 'executive summary'.

So why are we arguing?
What I understood of the video is one guy is hyperventilating while the other is rapping?

What's the problem?

See, at least Harm94 prefaces his explanation with this. CATO's paper presents itself as a complete history of modern Africa's economic state with no reservations other than that its only an 'executive summary'.
I would also like to add something. Contrary to popular belief, it is not entirely the white man's fault. Many tribes have been killing and enslaving each other long before colonization. Even when the Europeans showed up, other tribes would trade slaves for European goods.

I would also like to add something. Contrary to popular belief, it is not entirely the white man's fault. Many tribes have been killing and enslaving each other long before colonization. Even when the Europeans showed up, other tribes would trade slaves for European goods.
Let's not forget that a lot Africans do not want any help from the children of the slaves they sold to the Europeans of America, despite the wealth or ideas they could bring.

I would also like to add something. Contrary to popular belief, it is not entirely the white man's fault. Many tribes have been killing and enslaving each other long before colonization. Even when the Europeans showed up, other tribes would trade slaves for European goods.
Not to mention that Malaria has crippled the economies of African countries significantly by disabling a large percentage of the workforce and killing off even more people. African countries aren't nearly as bad off as they were 70 years ago, and some countries are progressing economically faster than major world powers. A lot of people have the perception that Africa is a massive desert with no industrialization and peppered with huts and tribal drum circles, but that's not really the case.