Author Topic: I'm installing Win 8.1 - what should i do first  (Read 1778 times)

So yeah, bought it with uni discount

what are the first things you guys suggest changing/installing to make it an easier transition from win7?

also anyone using office 365? what's it like if so?



Ignore idiots above. The first step to upgrading windows is to copy important files and then format the hard drive. You'll want a clean install without left over crap.

New office is great. Installer for it is bullstuff though. It can only install on C:/ and has no options to change that to make it more "user friendly". It's 3 GB large and I have 12 left. Guess it's gonna work...

theres pretty much no difference between windows 8 and windows 7 with the UI and navigation stuff, you'll be able to get around just fine. You wont even need the start button after a while

If I need to open a program i just press WinKey + S and type in a part of the file name and it shows up

New office is great.
Is the UI similar to that of office 2007-2010? or is it a complete redesign again?

Is the UI similar to that of office 2007-2010? or is it a complete redesign again?
New Windows 8 style theme (which I hated when I used office 2013 on Windows 7, but it feels fine on Windows 8), but layout is mostly the same iirc.
The hardest part of Windows 8 for me was adapting to it, but its fine after a day or so.

theres pretty much no difference between windows 8 and windows 7 with the UI and navigation stuff, you'll be able to get around just fine. You wont even need the start button after a while

If I need to open a program i just press WinKey + S and type in a part of the file name and it shows up
That could not possibly be further from the truth.

So lets start by just listing a few of the most annoying features of Windows 8.

  • 1) Windows uses this fancy new Metro UI system, which effectively turns your PC into a tablet for some reason. There are some who would call this "not a problem." But I call that Stockholm syndrome. This UI can be extremely aggravating for a number of reasons: The first being that it prevents you from having more than one application open at a time. For example: You are using a desktop browser in an attempt to send off an e-mail, one of the e-mails requires that you find a specific file  to read it, rather than having the window on the side open to find it in a matter of seconds, you have to completely stop what you're doing go into some magical Search app, then find the file, open it, read it, then close out of it since you cannot view it simultaneously, and send the e-mail.
  • 2) Applications don't really ever close, this means once you start some special windows application, it remains open until the OS decides its time to shut it down temporarily to save CPU, even though the App is still not in. In other words its annoyingly inefficient if you don't even use the metro apps, because the metro interface itself still uses computer resources. Wasted Space.
  • 3) The god damned interface is absurdly confusing for anyone used to a typical windows 7 OS. It took me around 20 minutes to figure out how to actually shut the stupid thing down, and I constantly found myself pressing the annoying fake start menu icon.

Not to mention the enormous litany of annoying glitches that, although some people have been spared, are utterly system-breaking. I know one such glitch my friend Nexus managed to run into while he was over at my house was that while he was running a full screen game, his processor's usage went up to around 100% Until he alt-tabbed, it wasn't even the game that was using the processing either. I've noticed this issue while just leaving the computer idle with task manager up, after a while I started to get an increase in the processing usage a lot of programs had until my computer fan whizzed into overdrive as it hit around 100% usage, I moved the mouse and clicked task manager and they immediately calmed down. (Keep in mind that Nexus's game glitch was a result of 8.1, after downgrading to 8; he fixed that problem. If you want to hear more about why 8.1 is cancer, talk to him, he's got a pretty nice list of complaints. Also for my problem, this was a fresh install without anything installed, so unless the OS by default has viruses in it, I can't really explain that besides bad programming/hardware integration.)

If you want my advice: if you can't find your way back to Windows 7, and don't feel like dealing with Linux; grab classic shell, and avoid the update to 8.1; it breaks more things than it fixes, Its more like a paint job over the many many cracks in the OS.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2014, 08:19:31 PM by Rykuta »

  • 1) Windows uses this fancy new Metro UI system, which effectively turns your PC into a tablet for some reason. There are some who would call this "not a problem." But I call that Stockholm syndrome. This UI can be extremely aggravating for a number of reasons: The first being that it prevents you from having more than one application open at a time. For example: You are using a desktop browser in an attempt to send off an e-mail, one of the e-mails requires that you find a specific file  to read it, rather than having the window on the side open to find it in a matter of seconds, you have to completely stop what you're doing go into some magical Search app, then find the file, open it, read it, then close out of it since you cannot view it simultaneously, and send the e-mail.
  • 2) Applications don't really ever close, this means once you start some special windows application, it remains open until the OS decides its time to shut it down temporarily to save CPU, even though the App is still not in. In other words its annoyingly inefficient if you don't even use the metro apps, because the metro interface itself still uses computer resources. Wasted Space.
  • 3) The god damned interface is absurdly confusing for anyone used to a typical windows 7 OS. It took me around 20 minutes to figure out how to actually shut the stupid thing down, and I constantly found myself pressing the annoying fake start menu icon.
1) I'm not sure what you are talking about here but it sounds like user error.

2) You can close metro apps by grabbing the top and pulling them down. Also, (this is at least true with mobile devices) but metro apps don't work like normal apps in the sense that when they are in the background they do not run at all. Aka they don't take up resources.

3) Yes shutting down was annoying to figure out.

As for 8.1 specifically, I haven't used it because I can't even get the installer to work. The time I tried to change some system settings to install it (as per a guide by Microsoft) I broke my Windows installation and had to reinstall. At this point a message came up and told me that "Sorry we couldn't update to 8.1 so you are back at 8.0." Even after this happened my machine refuses to stop bothering me about upgrading to 8.1.

I'm definitely not going back to win7, win8 has a certain directx input library that i need to do testing on

so i don't really want suggestions of what to go to instead, just suggestions on what to do IN 8.1

I'm definitely not going back to win7, win8 has a certain directx input library that i need to do testing on

so i don't really want suggestions of what to go to instead, just suggestions on what to do IN 8.1
I don't know, I didn't change anything and it was just fine.

bump, actually installing it now

will post impressions once done

bump, actually installing it now

will post impressions once done
I bet you'll like it.

I used Ninite to install most of my base programs, and it had an option for classic shell so I got that too

so right now it looks absolutely no different from win7 really, apart from seeming to run a bit faster

I have a windows 8 pc and I upgraded to win 8.1 a couple of months ago .
Had to wipe my whole loving hard drive to get win 8 back.
Not worth it.
1/10