one of the girls from my old school was actually a dude

[WALK2222]

her/his/its

I understand your not a fan of the person, but I would highly suggest using non gender-specific pronouns such as "they" or "them" rather than it.  Makes them sound like a person rather than some weird object.   Just a suggestion.

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[mus]

I understand your not a fan of the person, but I would highly suggest using non gender-specific pronouns such as "they" or "them" rather than it.  Makes them sound like a person rather than some weird object.   Just a suggestion.

While I'm even less than "not a fan" of that person (i'd probably go with absolute hatred for them), I understand.

[WALK2222]

While I'm even less than "not a fan" of that person (i'd probably go with absolute hatred for them), I understand.

Thanks for understanding

[/Pacha]

Well.. unless you got into bed with one.. then...




*surprise*

i'd be hoping if i get to that point in a relationship i'd already know about that by then :p

[Dragonslayer182]

*picture*

[Night Fox]

Well.. unless you got into bed with one.. then...
*surprise*

presumably if you were dating an nb then you would ask them whether they had a snake or a vagina before trying to have love with them

[Steve5451²]

That's kinda hot.

[Bisjac]

I understand your not a fan of the person, but I would highly suggest using non gender-specific pronouns such as "they" or "them" rather than it.  Makes them sound like a person rather than some weird object.   Just a suggestion.

"him" is fine

[WALK2222]

"him" is fine

Yep, completely agree; if they identify with that gender.  Using it isn't right though.

[Racerboy]

inb4 45 pages

[$trinick]

presumably if you were dating an nb then you would ask them whether they had a snake or a vagina before trying to have love with them

I don't know what an nb is, so I don't know if I would ask before trying to have love with them. I don't generally ask people I perceive as female if they are female before trying to have love with them though.

i'd be hoping if i get to that point in a relationship i'd already know about that by then :p

Point in a relationship? Day one?

Yep, completely agree; if they identify with that gender.  Using it isn't right though.

Him can actually be a gender neutral pronoun in the English language. "Every man for himself" doesn't refer only to males. "Them" is actually a plural and is technically incorrect to use to refer to a single person. English isn't a romance language, our words aren't charged with gender unless they define a gender.

[WALK2222]

Him can actually be a gender neutral pronoun in the English language. "Every man for himself" doesn't refer only to males. "Them" is actually a plural and is technically incorrect to use to refer to a single person. English isn't a romance language, our words aren't charged with gender unless they define a gender.

That is true, however, in normal everyday language it isn't too common.  You normally wouldn't say "he" when referring to a girl, even if it can be grammatically correct. 
English isn't like other languages such as Spanish where you refer a group of girls and boys as the plural of boy.  It's simply a lot easier and respectful just to call transgendered people by their requested pronouns.  Saves a lot of time.

[Bisjac]

call him what he legally is if you are unsure what he wants. then its no longer your problem.
its not our job to ask people what they prefer to spare feelings.

dont let them put the burden on you to put them oin a pedestal of difference. its not your concern.

[$trinick]

That is true, however, in normal everyday language it isn't too common.  You normally wouldn't say "he" when referring to a girl, even if it can be grammatically correct. 
English isn't like other languages such as Spanish where you refer a group of girls and boys as the plural of boy.  It's simply a lot easier and respectful just to call transgendered people by their requested pronouns.  Saves a lot of time.

Using "he" when referring to a girl is incorrect. "He" can be either male or gender neutral, never female. If the gender of the subject is unknown, that makes it a gender neutral subject and "he" is acceptable until a gender is discerned.

I agree you should call people by their requested pronouns, but such does not exist in all cases.

[Camel]

call him what he legally is if you are unsure what he wants. then its no longer your problem.
its not our job to ask people what they prefer to spare feelings.

dont let them put the burden on you to put them oin a pedestal of difference. its not your concern.

the way i see it

if someone chastises you for saying he the first time you meet em instead of ze or something

that's probably not a person you want in your life