Author Topic: Animated PNGs are the best and you should use them  (Read 10248 times)


Its likely chrome won't officially support apng for a while. for reasons why, see this

Its likely chrome won't officially support apng for a while. for reasons why, see this
I don't see how that's valid reasoning for a lack of support. Sure, the official libpng committee doesn't support it, but why does that matter? If a tiny extension can do it, the devs can do it.

I don't see how that's valid reasoning for a lack of support. Sure, the official libpng committee doesn't support it, but why does that matter? If a tiny extension can do it, the devs can do it.

Yeah, its a stuffty excuse; I think the chrome devs should add apng support, but that's their reasoning for it, for anyone who wanted to know. *shrug*

cuol
i don't really see a difference though
quality
colors
motion


Default Opera master race
but Opera hasn't supported it for over 10 versions

but Opera hasn't supported it for over 10 versions
Workin' fine for me



we should be able to use webms

WoT doesn't like this site
jesus christ
it's literally just text. there aren't even any images. no cookies. nothing. when you open the page. it loads one file, just one, HTML file. with no scripts on it. maybe people rated it badly because they didn't like what it was telling them and got mad

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In a world full of standard, grossly interoperable, literal open browser specifications in charge of every aspect of the standards body, and almost nothing but lazy, mentally ill, braindead and poo-flinging monkeys designing it, nothing as beautiful as APNG can survive without eccentric billionares who didn't show up and donate mountains of pure gold. APNGs never stood a chance in the first place, and while I would them bring back if I could, which I genuinely tried to, as promised, virtually nobody is interested in changing the world wide web for the better, and if you are out there somewhere, you're harder to find than Kirk Johnson. I'm purely writing this for anyone who might still think that APNGs are coming back, which they are definitely not. It's not possible. They were shunned for a series of political, browser-wars ego reasons. Because APNG was a Mozilla idea, and not required as part of an official standard, this quite likely kept rival browsers from adopting it, given that they wouldn't be able to claim the glory of inventing it or be the leader. Opera was the only non-Mozilla browser to adopt it, and with their recent Self Delete of their own Presto engine and announcment that they are moving to WebKit or a WebKit-derived engine(which powers Safari and Chrome browsers), it seems unlikely that the APNG support will survive to the next version of Opera. And it's not as if Opera support was that much of a gamechanger to begin with, given their modest market share... And then there was the rejection of APNG by the PNG group. Because it competed with the overly complex and virtually dead MNG format that was their idea, they found a petty technicality to declare that APNG breaks the PNG specification. Even though APNG was superior in every practical way to MNG, it recieved a rejection from the PNG group, branding it an outcast and further derailing its potential. APNG had fall-back-to-first-frame backwards-compatabilty, allowing it to show the first frame(but not the animation), even in browsers that didn't support it. APNG had an extremely low resource usage footprint, allowing browsers to add it with no noticable increase in filesize or performance hit, while MNG was bloated with many extra features that most people would never reasonably use. In summary, APNG was a lightweight image format, that would have taken very little to implement, which achieved what most users and webmasters wanted in an animated raster image(A better Animated GIF with full color and transparency support), that was killed by tech politics.

For Animated SVGs, however, the future looks more bright, with SVG adopted as an open standard and animation via CSS3 animations looking pretty sharp. They even have the ability to embed bitmaps, which could be used to get the animated raster image effect.

pngs are better because then nobody would start chiming in and start screaming "LEL NEEDS MORE JPEG"

One question: does it work as a youtube avatar?

One question: does it work as a youtube avatar?
can you have a gif as your youtube avatar? if no, then your answer is no