[NEWS] israel invades gaza strip, begins ground offensive

[DrenDran]

I hate that argument. OH ARABS HAVE TONS OF LAND SO ITS OKAY THAT ISRAEL KICKED THEM OUT. How is that a good argument?

I know right:
1. There are 1,600,000,000 Muslims, and only about 14,000,000 Jews. That's 114 Muslims per Jew. Islam obviously requires far more land.
2. That particular land is more important to them, and was owned by the previously. Just because the Jews might need land (they don't) doesn't mean they can kick others out to get it.

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[sir dooble]

I know right:
1. There are 1,600,000,000 Muslims, and only about 14,000,000 Jews. That's 114 Muslims per Jew. Islam obviously requires far more land.
2. That particular land is more important to them, and was owned by the previously. Just because the Jews might need land (they don't) doesn't mean they can kick others out to get it.

What makes that land more important to them? And it was previously (before the muslims) owned by the Jews.

[Caribou]

I hate that argument. OH ARABS HAVE TONS OF LAND SO ITS OKAY THAT ISRAEL KICKED THEM OUT. How is that a good argument?

I did not say anywhere that it was A-okay for the Israeli's to take over the land. I am not denying that originally, it was Palestinian land (which by the way was underdeveloped when the Palestinians were there and the British took care of everything). The Israeli's did in fact steal the land from the Palestinian, but if we are going to play the brown townogy game here, so be it. Many countries were taken over by other cultures and/or peoples. Several. Including New Zealand (formally inhabited by the Maori peoples, and taken by the British), Canada (formally inhabited by the Metis, First Nation peoples, and the Inuit and taken by the French, and then the British), Australia (formally inhabited by the Aboriginal People of Australia and taken by the British), and the United States of America (formally inhabited with Native Americans and taken by the British). What is your point?

I know right:
1. There are 1,600,000,000 Muslims, and only about 14,000,000 Jews. That's 114 Muslims per Jew. Islam obviously requires far more land.
2. That particular land is more important to them, and was owned by the previously. Just because the Jews might need land (they don't) doesn't mean they can kick others out to get it.

I know right, if the land was necessitous to them then over 80% would be used, and quite frankly I don't even think 8% of it is. Israel was owned by the Palestinians before but if we are going to go back in ancient times then it was the Jews (which I obviously don't go by, but you get the point). I still think that Israel is Palestinian land, but we cant do anything about it. Many wars were fought and Israel won. Every group really is entitled to their own land, that is why we have the U.N (United Nations), and that is the reason why they approved of the State of Israel's creation.

[Jubel]

why not build a wal-mart there and solve all these problems with lower prices every day

[Caribou]

Also Dren, I would like to point out that your profile picture speaks a million words.

why not build a wal-mart there and solve all these problems with lower prices every day

I do not think that the Walmart franchise would like to expand their business to another place where the risk of terror attacks and roadside and Self Delete bombings are frequent.

[Operator¹]

Also Dren, I would like to point out that your profile picture speaks a million words.

I do not think that the Walmart franchise would like to expand their business to another place where the risk of terror attacks and roadside and Self Delete bombings are frequent.

just build a giant oil refinery by paving over the entire middle east

[Tayasaurus]

I do not think that the Walmart franchise would like to expand their business to another place where the risk of terror attacks and roadside and Self Delete bombings are frequent.

Up in the sky!

It's a bird

It's a plane

It's the joke!

[DrenDran]

Also Dren, I would like to point out that your profile picture speaks a million words.

Uh, what words are those?

I did not say anywhere that it was A-okay for the Israeli's to take over the land. I am not denying that originally, it was Palestinian land (which by the way was underdeveloped when the Palestinians were there and the British took care of everything). The Israeli's did in fact steal the land from the Palestinian, but if we are going to play the brown townogy game here, so be it. Many countries were taken over by other cultures and/or peoples. Several. Including New Zealand (formally inhabited by the Maori peoples, and taken by the British), Canada (formally inhabited by the Metis, First Nation peoples, and the Inuit and taken by the French, and then the British), Australia (formally inhabited by the Aboriginal People of Australia and taken by the British), and the United States of America (formally inhabited with Native Americans and taken by the British). What is your point?

I know right, if the land was necessitous to them then over 80% would be used, and quite frankly I don't even think 8% of it is. Israel was owned by the Palestinians before but if we are going to go back in ancient times then it was the Jews (which I obviously don't go by, but you get the point). I still think that Israel is Palestinian land, but we cant do anything about it. Many wars were fought and Israel won. Every group really is entitled to their own land, that is why we have the U.N (United Nations), and that is the reason why they approved of the State of Israel's creation.

There's a difference between:

"Europe should be owned by Italy because ancient Rome" or "america should go back to the Indians"
and something like
"my grandfather still remembers when this land belonged to his people, he doesn't want to have to move again".

[Caribou]

Up in the sky!

It's a bird

It's a plane

It's the joke!

I thought it was going to be Superman for a minute

Uh, what words are those?
There's a difference between:

"Europe should be owned by Italy because ancient Rome" or "america should go back to the Indians"
and something like
"my grandfather still remembers when this land belonged to his people, he doesn't want to have to move again".

Words that I think you can already guess of. Also I don't see what you are trying to say.

[DrenDran]

Words that I think you can already guess of.

I can guess of stupid things, stupid things indeed.
What is it with people and thick lines at 90 degree angles.

Also I don't see what you are trying to say.

Kicking the Palestinians out of their land isn't okay, just because there is already land that is predominately Muslim.
Then the conversation went into talking about ancient times.

[Cappytaino]

Israel has so many countries against it, what do you want the Israeli's to do? Stand there while their country is being blown into pieces? If it weren't for their aggressiveness, every other Arab country would of had it blown up into pieces now. I don't support Israel either, but I acknowledge why they are so protective. The Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years and never had a land of their own. Almost every other major group and/or religion has beside them. Look at the Arabs: they have thousands of miles of land which is predominantly desert and camels.

I respectfully have to say, that's bullstuff. Attempt to justify the following, and see why people hate Israel:

1. Israelis bulldozing Palestinian homes and villages to build Israeli-only luxury apartments and settlements

2. This image is a chart of Israeli and Palestinian children killed since September 29, 2000.

Explain to me how killing 1,581 Palestinian children is acceptable in any way, shape, or form.

3. Building a wall to keep Palestinians out of certain areas, claiming the wall is for defensive purposes, while the only purpose the wall currently serves is to oppress Palestinians, while at the same time, being a land grab for Israel

4. Building said wall outside of the agreed-upon borders of Israel as a land grab

5. Using military force to abduct and imprison Palestinians indefinitely for speaking negatively of Israel

6. Explain how Netanyahu using war as a political tool is at all acceptable in any way

7. Explain why Palestinians are not allowed to dig wells on their land in the West Bank to get the water needed to survive, which may be incredibly difficult for them to procure otherwise.

There's a lot of bullstuff flying around about Israel, but certain things are inexcusable, and I have a lot more if you want to have a formal debate, this is just a quick post.

[Clear Glass]

You know when you fire Qassam rockets into another country.......and Self Delete bomb....and attack them in other forms.....they tend to you know....retaliate.

[DrenDran]

You know when you fire Qassam rockets into another country.......and Self Delete bomb....and attack them in other forms.....they tend to you know....retaliate.

Try reading the last page or two.

[mus]

Try reading the last page or two.

Please loving do this.

[Cappytaino]

You know when you fire Qassam rockets into another country.......and Self Delete bomb....and attack them in other forms.....they tend to you know....retaliate.

And when you kill/abduct civilians, bulldoze homes, and displace thousands, people tend to be slightly pissed off and might fight back in the only way that they can be heard

Edit: an infographic about the wall Israel has been building