Author Topic: Why does Thor's belt in this painting have a swastika? (Read 4443 times)

M�ster Bl�ster · July 30, 2014, 10:41:41 AM

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I wonder.

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Fennis · July 30, 2014, 10:43:51 AM

It used to be a symbol of good iirc among the Germanic people and eventually morphed into a symbol of luck in North America back in the 1800s. Which is why you can look at sports teams photos from the 1890s and such and see swastikas on their uniforms and banners.

M�ster Bl�ster · July 30, 2014, 10:45:08 AM

Quote from: Fennis on July 30, 2014, 10:43:51 AM

It used to be a symbol of good iirc among the Germanic people and eventually morphed into a symbol of luck in North America back in the 1800s. Which is why you can look at sports teams photos from the 1890s and such and see swastikas on their uniforms and banners.

Yeah, a buddhist symbol.

Doomonkey · July 30, 2014, 10:46:25 AM

Quote from: M�ster Bl�ster on July 30, 2014, 10:45:08 AM

Yeah, a buddhist symbol.

Um, the symbol was used worldwide. It has different meanings all over the place.

Yosher · July 30, 2014, 10:47:02 AM

Also caused many people on Blockland to use the excuse "but it used to be a symbol of peaaaceeeee :(" when spamming swastikas on servers.

M�ster Bl�ster · July 30, 2014, 10:47:12 AM

Quote from: Doomonkey on July 30, 2014, 10:46:25 AM

Um, the symbol was used worldwide. It has different meanings all over the place.

Ah.

Katadeus · July 30, 2014, 10:47:35 AM

Painting was made in 1872
World wars are not even on the horizon

It's also not really a difficult symbol to come up with

Fennis · July 30, 2014, 10:47:47 AM

Quote from: M�ster Bl�ster on July 30, 2014, 10:45:08 AM

Yeah, a buddhist symbol.

It's found in both cultures. And it was originally in Asia a Hindu symbol. Don't forget that Buddhism grew out of Hinduism just like Christians were once Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Hinduism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Germanic_Iron_Age

Jairo · July 30, 2014, 10:50:03 AM

Quote from: Katadeus on July 30, 2014, 10:47:35 AM

Painting was made in 1872
World wars are not even on the horizon

to be fair, germany had been formed and kicked france's ass once already by then

AtlasBlue · July 30, 2014, 10:50:40 AM

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Harm94 · July 30, 2014, 10:51:38 AM

Quote from: M�ster Bl�ster on July 30, 2014, 10:41:41 AM

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I wonder.

It's an ancient symbol that predates the national socialist's. It has multiple meanings, ofcourse now its a associated with the national socialist's. That will probably change in a hundred years or so as people start to forget about ww2.

Fennis · July 30, 2014, 10:52:37 AM

Quote from: Jairo on July 30, 2014, 10:50:03 AM

to be fair, germany had been formed and kicked france's ass once already by then

Germany didn't use the swastika until Riddler, though. Some national socialists (not Riddler), but ones like Goebbels were even trying to go back to proto-Germanic religious traditions too, ie. worship of Thor and Odin, etc, and so it makes sense to use the swastika.

Quote from: Harm94 on July 30, 2014, 10:51:38 AM

as people start to forget about ww2.

Forget about the bloodiest war in all of human history?

sir dooble · July 30, 2014, 10:53:47 AM

It's an ancient symbol. Ancient hindus and Romans were using it for various purposes.
Ultimately it's not a particularly difficult design to come up with, but it is striking, hence it's prevalence in so many cultures.

It's just one of the shames of national socialist Germany that the symbol is so linked with the national socialist party and fascism. I don't see that link being broken any time soon.

Katadeus · July 30, 2014, 10:54:39 AM

Apparently it may have been used to represent Thor or his hammer

Jairo · July 30, 2014, 10:56:20 AM

Quote from: Fennis on July 30, 2014, 10:52:37 AM

Germany didn't use the swastika until Riddler, though. Some national socialists (not Riddler), but ones like Goebbels were even trying to go back to proto-Germanic religious traditions too, ie. worship of Thor and Odin, etc, and so it makes sense to use the swastika.

I wasn't talking about that

I was talking about franco-german relations circa 1870