Author Topic: Why does Thor's belt in this painting have a swastika?  (Read 4935 times)

I wasn't talking about that

I was talking about franco-german relations circa 1870

Irrelevant though, because the swastika as a symbol wasn't involved.

Thor is secretly a national socialist, duh?

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Yep. And then we added "under god" as soon as we didn't want to look like godless commies and started supporting the fascists instead and took a strong stance against communism.


Irrelevant though, because the swastika as a symbol wasn't involved.
...I was never talking about the swastika

what the hell are you talking about

ffs THE loving SWASTIKA EXISTED BEFORE THE national socialistS

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Yep. And then we added "under god" as soon as we didn't want to look like godless commies and started supporting the fascists instead and took a strong stance against communism.

The pledge itself was invented by some douche so he could sell flags to schools.

And remember all that stuff about the 10 commandments monuments being removed from court houses a few years back?  A lot of those were promotional pieces distributed by Paramount to promote the 1956 movie The Ten Commandments.

How much of our "cultural heritage" is just the remnants of a successful con marketing campaign? 

How much of our "cultural heritage" is just the remnants of a successful con marketing campaign? 

Soon all of it will be when Fuhrer Romney declares himself god-king of the Umitted States of Amittrica and outsources Congress Inc. to China.

Soon all of it will be when Fuhrer Romney declares himself god-king of the Umitted States of Amittrica and outsources Congress Inc. to China.
Eventually the Umitted States of Amittrica will fall apart as we continue to spread our war resources thin and fall apart like the roman empire. Then the remaining Superpowers will move in much like Romes generals and divvy up the lands and continue to fight over it.

Then the cycle repeats. Its wonderfully simple.

Forget about the bloodiest war in all of human history?
All wars are bloody and full of tragedy. However, people tend to forget things rather quickly. If you look at photos of WW1, you'd see people missing their jaws, burnt, mangled in barbed wire, suffering from gas attacks and literally coughing their lungs out and suffering a slow painful death, trench foot, corpse rats, etc. While WW2 did have more losses, you don't see as many gruesome photos as seen in ww1. Probably you don't see as many gruesome photos of WW2 because people remembered how horrible the experiences were during the great war, so there was probably a lot of censorship to prevent deserters and to keep morale high for recruitment.

As far as bloodiest, I assume you are talking about the death camps. The thing is the higher ups in the allies knew of them, but never cared. The guys on the bottom were pretty much clueless about these camps until they started discovering them. Resistance fighters and people living near them also knew of these camps, but all they could do was either keep quiet or tell the allied soldiers once they came. Of course then you hear the stories on tv and in school books about the brave heroic soliders of freedom who came to liberate these poor jews, but what you don't hear about is that how the jews in the camps were put under quarantined for weeks and not permitted to leave the camp. Most of those European countries hated the jews, gypsies, gays, deformed, and handicapped and pretty much didn't care. The creation of Israel was pretty much a PR move to look good. However it should be noted that a majority of the jews living in Israel came from the Soviet Union and Eastern countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, etc and western allied nations like France. Not to say that you are wrong, the losses are high, but I'm just trying to give everyone a clear picture of what really happened during the war.

The Allies rarely worked with the USSR. Then after world war 2 you have the drunken Winston Churchhill coming out to blabber about the evil Iron Curtain and then we plunge into the cold war.

However we tend to forget things rather quickly. Most people don't even know of the Korean War which has become a foot note in our history classes, the first Gulf War/Desert Storm isn't really talked about all that much. Same with Vietnam, if you see anything about Vietnam it is usually associated with anti-war stuff while ww2 is portrayed as the good war and Vietnam being the bad one(at least in the US).

However we tend to forget things rather quickly. Most people don't even know of the Korean War which has become a foot note in our history classes, the first Gulf War/Desert Storm isn't really talked about all that much. Same with Vietnam, if you see anything about Vietnam it is usually associated with anti-war stuff while ww2 is portrayed as the good war and Vietnam being the bad one(at least in the US).
To return to your initial point though, WW2 won't be forgotten for hundreds of years.
The Korean and Vietnam wars are easier to be forgotten because they were between a few nations (as far as the majority of troop movement goes).
WW2 really did affect almost the entire world, not just in political backings and financial supports, but in the movement of troops.

It won't be forgotten because there are too many people and nations to remember it.
Therefore the swastika as a piece of national socialist symbolism won't be forgotten either.

What about forgotten as in stuff like the Hundred years War and the Napoleonic wars. We acknowledge and learn about them, but we don't cry or lament over them. A better word would probably be relevant. We might look a swastika today and think "A symbol of hatred and facism", people in the future might look at it and think "A symbol of an evil empire from a long time ago", which then turns into "a symbol of something that happened a long time ago and has little relevancy today".
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Forget about the bloodiest war in all of human history?
Is this a joke?
There are going to be far worse wars as humanity advances.



The holocaust will be insignificant as we think of far dumber reasons to kill far more people.
(Also the USSR killed more innocents than the national socialists, far more)

Forget about the bloodiest war in all of human history?
History repeats itself. I wouldn't be surprised if another war broke out in the next 100 years. If that would really happen, then no-one would live long enough to tell the tale of WW2.