Poll

Question

Free market
14 (50%)
Govt controlled
2 (7.1%)
Mixed (comment)
12 (42.9%)

Total Members Voted: 28

Author Topic: Free market or govt controlled economy?  (Read 4159 times)

its amazing how brainwashed americans are. so many in strong support of free market. when they arent even the ones that get anything out if it.
they were taught to love it and tbey beliebe they do lol

I agree with Bisjac. It is pretty pathetic, considering the overwhelming American population doesn't benefit from it. Not to mention, millions of Americans are on government welfare which does say something.

It's just Bisjac stuffposting again.  Ignore it.
No, he has a point.

Monopolies can not survive in a free market, so asking the government to do it is redundant.
Monopolies thrive in a free market.

Nothing is perfect, always open to exploitation.

gov should make sure monopolys don't occur and there is a minimum wage etc. but it should primarily be a free market
Create minimum wage, businesses will lower work hours to avoid spending too much on their employees. If they doesn't work they lay people off and replace them with machines. If that doesn't work, then they can outsource their labor to a nation with little or no pay, terrible working conditions, and little to no safety regulations.

Create equal wages, people will leave the country to find places for better work. The Soviet Union experienced this problem when Doctors and scientists were tired of earning the same pay as a janitor and realized they could make more money if they defected to the west.

I agree with Bisjac. It is pretty pathetic, considering the overwhelming American population doesn't benefit from it. Not to mention, millions of Americans are on government welfare which does say something.

I have some thoughts

Our public education is rated pretty low in the industrialized world, maybe schools are failing to prepare kids in giving them skills to survive in the free market? Or how about forcing everyone through the same educational standard rather than increasing access to vocational training and gifted programs to adequately help people find their respective role in the free market.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Obama had significantly lowered the criteria for welfare

I agree with Bisjac. It is pretty pathetic, considering the overwhelming American population doesn't benefit from it. Not to mention, millions of Americans are on government welfare which does say something.
At the same time, people living full time at minimum wage with one job cannot make ends meet.  The costs of living are just too high.  Retrospectively, the poverty line is set far too low.  With a higher minimum wage, money earned by workers will be injected back into the economy as these people are likely to spend more, and not have to scrape to save for fewer things.

The American standard of living has steadily rose, but the economic floor has not.  This is a problem that will harm, and is currently harming the economy.

At the same time, people living full time at minimum wage with one job cannot make ends meet.  The costs of living are just too high.  Retrospectively, the poverty line is set far too low.  With a higher minimum wage, money earned by workers will be injected back into the economy as these people are likely to spend more, and not have to scrape to save for fewer things.

The American standard of living has steadily rose, but the economic floor has not.  This is a problem that will harm, and is currently harming the economy.
My thoughts on minimum wage are this:

If a company is not paying you properly, don't work there. If a company cannot keep employees due to low wages they either have to a) raise their wages or b) go out of business.

I think the OP should add mixed economy to poll.

Free Market is good in a non-modern America where corporations have literally cornered the market on everything, including politics.

So you need government intervention to protect small business. So mixed I suppose.


Mostly govt control with minimal free market

free market of course
government should just stay out of everything

granted this is theory, and there has been a few sour monopolies and cartels in history, but I think govt should only break up malicious monopolys/cartels
I can't think of any 'fair monopolies'. I like That Guy T's thinking, but what he isn't thinking about is that grocery stores are necessary for people to eat. It doesn't have anything to do about 'satisfying the customer'. If they ban saggy pants, people still have to shop there because there's no where else they can get groceries in the city. The only situation where his brown townogy works is if they ban black people, but what happens to them while the new, competitive grocery store gets built?

Dumb liberals blubber about inequality, but the real inequality here would be if people working at McDonalds get paid close to what the average Nurse gets per year, that'd be a real insult. To think all those years of schooling would be for nothing. Salary inequality? My ass! Look, I know executives are paid an overwhelming amount, but that is a tiny amount of people in the country.

I have some thoughts

Our public education is rated pretty low in the industrialized world, maybe schools are failing to prepare kids in giving them skills to survive in the free market? Or how about forcing everyone through the same educational standard rather than increasing access to vocational training and gifted programs to adequately help people find their respective role in the free market.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Obama had significantly lowered the criteria for welfare


I agree, and kids older than 16 who choose to fight and hit other people and become aggressive should be thrown out of the school system. Instead of adding gifted classes, we should be adding more programs for the disabled. If they were so gifted, then they could compete with regular performing kids. Gifted classes are props for parents.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 06:20:08 PM by Caribou »

Instead of adding gifted classes, we should be adding more programs for the disabled.
or we could lower spending and not have a bunch of programs that don't actually help anyone

or we could lower spending and not have a bunch of programs that don't actually help anyone

Now this is an incredibly ridiculous argument, the notion that we shouldn't help disabled people is preposterous.