What do you think of the minimum wage being lifted?

[Kearn]

oh so the job of the government isnt to uphold the law and protect the sovereignty of the united states its actually to give out "free" stuff to poor people oh ok

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[Lego lad]

we need a rocket to send all of the extra kids people have and can't support to a distant planet.

[Swat 3]

The Government still has to provide Benefits, its there job  

No the forget it isn't. It shouldn't be. The private companies should be able to provide the benefits, but since everyone but the big-ones are piss-ass poor, they don't. The government does.

And then that gives an excuse for McDonalds NOT to give benefits because everyone else doesn't have to.

we need a rocket to send all of the extra kids people have and can't support to a distant planet.

forget that requires more spending for NASA

[Caribou]

The Government still has to provide Benefits, its there job  

The job of the Government is to not provide benefits for the people. The sole purpose of the Government is for them to look over the people. Handouts are not what a Government should give.

[Nonnel]

The Government still has to provide Benefits, its there job 

No not at all, actually.

[Fennis]

Did you ever notice how people who argue that the minimum wage shouldn't be lifted don't have to live off of the minimum wage?

[Nonnel]

Did you ever notice how people who argue that the minimum wage shouldn't be lifted don't have to live off of the minimum wage?

Did you ever notice how people who argue that the minimum wage should be lifted have to live off of the minimum wage?

[McJobless]

The Government have a responsibility to represent and look after its people in a manner that the people agree on. The Government doesn't have any obligation to give out "free money" or set a higher standard for cheap labour, unless if the people agree that the benefit outweighs the cost in taxes.

Personally, I think America is in a tough spot. It's because of your lower wages that products are so incredibly cheap, which leads to big increases in exports and general sales. Sure, it's absolutely horrible what some people are living off, but I'm not sure how much the economy will suffer if you begin to increase wages and therefore product prices. The important thing right now is that there are more jobs, not high wages, because at least that way people are making *some* money and are able to survive to some degree.

[IkeTheGeneric]

Did you ever notice how people who argue that the minimum wage should be lifted have to live off of the minimum wage?

Nothing wrong with wanting a wage you can support yourself with.

[Caribou]

Did you ever notice how people who argue that the minimum wage shouldn't be lifted don't have to live off of the minimum wage?

I have a summer job now, and I am being paid the minimum wage of New York ($8). It's not much, but I am not rambling about how little it is because I know that as you progress in age past your youth, you get better jobs which pay more. Also maybe if people saved their money; they wouldn't be in such a tough spot.

The Government have a responsibility to represent and look after its people in a manner that the people agree on. The Government doesn't have any obligation to give out "free money" or set a higher standard for cheap labour, unless if the people agree that the benefit outweighs the cost in taxes.

Personally, I think America is in a tough spot. It's because of your lower wages that products are so incredibly cheap, which leads to big increases in exports and general sales. Sure, it's absolutely horrible what some people are living off, but I'm not sure how much the economy will suffer if you begin to increase wages and therefore product prices. The important thing right now is that there are more jobs, not high wages, because at least that way people are making *some* money and are able to survive to some degree.

There is a reason why America is an obese country; food is too cheap here. Notice in countries where food is harder to import and produce, obesity rates are lower since it is more expensive which causes people to buy less of what they have. It's interesting how humans rationalize.

Nothing wrong with wanting a wage you can support yourself with.

That is correct, there is most certainly nothing wrong with wanting a wage you can support yourself with -- but you also have to be realistic and use idealism here. You have to work for that wage as well.

[Nonnel]

Nothing wrong with wanting a wage you can support yourself with.

my point is obviously both sides have bias

[Caribou]

my point is obviously both sides have bias

While that is true, it is also true that some sides have more bias than others.

[sir dooble]

Since a lot of people here are complaining about poor families with lots of children (who by the way aren't the only people who work at the minimum wage), why not consider a change to the view that China have on children?
You can have a limit to how many children you have, with large fines for going over that limit (twins and so forth don't count).

Or even require some form of qualification to have children? Meeting a minimum age, minimum intelligence (not talking genius levels here, just smart enough to not be likely to abuse a child), having a job, etc...?
What's the minimum wage in the US? Is it the same all across the country or does it vary from state to state?

UK minimum wage is £6.31 ($10.67) an hour, for 21+, and £5.03 ($8.51) an hour for 18-20.
And that applies to all jobs, bar apprenticeships.

[Swat 3]

Nothing wrong with wanting a wage you can support yourself with.

Yes, but of course we go back to the part where you are usually a burger-flipper if you are a student who just needs a part-time job or you dropped out of high school.

What's the minimum wage in the US? Is it the same all across the country or does it vary from state to state?

UK minimum wage is £6.31 ($10.67) an hour, for 21+, and £5.03 ($8.51) an hour for 18-20.
And that applies to all jobs, bar apprenticeships.

It varies from state to state.

[Jubel]

If a large company can't afford a couple dollar h/ increase to support higher minimum wages, they're running on a broken business model.