NEW AND IMPROVED Warfare Pack

[Jay the Cartoonist]

this is true, however threatening to lock the topic is not to stop people from flaming, necessarily, but so deadeye doesn't doesn't have to deal with all this flame, because frankly, im sure that even after reading the topic the people who have just recently flamed this topic, thought that deadeye was better then this. and like is said before, you guys are going to have to deal with a "Crappy product" for now, because like you said Jay, he will most likely get better over time, that is what I ment

However I do not get why people have to be negative about it. istead of:

maybe put:

These models could use work (list reasons why and the problems etc) and other then that they are (Great, Okay, decent etc)

I could totally communicate calmly and discuss the necessary improvements to satisfy the "consumer", and rely that to deadeye or who ever the improvements apply to.

No one has even flamed the topic that hard.  Just cool your jets and work on being better.

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[SgtDaemon]

bf3 pack 2.0

[Ctrooper]

Are the videos insanely quiet for anyone else?
There's a lot to be left desired with the models IMO. You may want to have it so that the warhead for the RPG disappears and have an animation of the user loading another one in or something, for one. Also, some of the scopes seem to be bugged, specifically for the XM25. You may want to work on a lot of the weapons' grips as well.

A better way to balance the weapons(specifically the rocket launchers) is to add an actual ammunition system so that people can actually run out of ammunition. The current way to balance it seems very strange in comparison. I would also make the smoke grenades deal less damage, maybe 5 or 10 damage.

I 100% agree, me and dead are currently testing animations for us to use on the guns, mostly recoil animations, but yes and animation for the RPG is a good idea, the XM25 is actually going to get a huge fix, dead recently told me hes gonna go through all the weapons with scopes and touch them up make them look a lot better, and I like your balancing idea for the rocket launchers, also the smoke damage, I will reduce as well, thatnks for feedback

[Ctrooper]

bf3 pack 2.0

lol nothing in this pack resembles sgt a walters BF3 pack

[Ctrooper]

No one has even flamed the topic that hard.  Just cool your jets and work on being better.

in your eyes maybe not, but im kinda sensitive, and this is also a future reference to people who do want to flame the pack hard.

[SWAT One]

Blank spaces? what?

Just moments where all your blockhead is doing is staring off in the distance, either holding or not holding a weapon.

You held that bigass rocket launcher for maybe 10 seconds, aiming at the tank very precisely, and then put it away and did something else.

In the video, show them why they should download this, and what makes it a good addition to their server.

However I do not get why people have to be negative about it. istead of:

maybe put:

These models could use work (list reasons why and the problems etc) and other then that they are (Great, Okay, decent etc)

I could totally communicate calmly and discuss the necessary improvements to satisfy the "consumer", and rely that to deadeye or who ever the improvements apply to.

If you bought a drink and you found a hair in it, that's one thing, but if you get your drink, and it's just a cup of sewage, would you calmly say, " Excuse me sir, could I get a new drink please, y'know, maybe with a little more edible substance, and less fecal matter?"?

No.  They see the models as bad and they can express that how they see suitable.  You don't get to correct them if you're getting widespread complaints.

[Midevil Warrior]

and I swear to god if you flame him to the point where he quits modeling im going to lock this stuff up so fast it will make you head spin 720 degrees!

whered' my head loving go you bitch

[Ctrooper]

whered' my head loving go you bitch

I didn't lock the topic yet

Just moments where all your blockhead is doing is staring off in the distance, either holding or not holding a weapon.

You held that bigass rocket launcher for maybe 10 seconds, aiming at the tank very precisely, and then put it away and did something else.

In the video, show them why they should download this, and what makes it a good addition to their server.
If you bought a drink and you found a hair in it, that's one thing, but if you get your drink, and it's just a cup of sewage, would you calmly say, " Excuse me sir, could I get a new drink please, y'know, maybe with a little more edible substance, and less fecal matter?"?

No.  They see the models as bad and they can express that how they see suitable.  You don't get to correct them if you're getting widespread complaints.

I see what you mean now, and can you stop comparing all this to real life, of course im going to get mad if my beverage is full of sewage but as you can clearly tell, there is no cup, there is no sewage, we are arguing over the quality (which I guess is crap, because you all fail to realize that this is our first pack) of this pack, so when it comes to giving your opinion in matters like this, be kinder please?

[SWAT One]

We have no obligation to be kind, none at all.  I'm not being mean here.  I'm putting this in perspective– players feel dissatisfied, and they have the right to.  Unless by mean you imply "down-to-earth", in which sense I am speaking.

Granted it is your first pack, that is fine, and I cannot judge on that premise.  I advise consulting people in this thread for modeling help.

[Khain]

well you guys are going have to make due with the models, sorry that they are not perfect, but again I cant do much about that but I did warn you guys that the models were going to be and will forever be.. different, deadeye487 is doing his best, and I swear to god if you flame him to the point where he quits modeling im going to lock this stuff up so fast it will make you head spin 720 degrees!

You're acting like you're doing us a favor, that we're dying to have your weapons, but that isn't true.
Nobody here is desesperate for your add-ons, I'm not going to spin my head 720 degrees just because someone couldn't handle the truth, I was just as bashed when I started modelling but I didn't quit, I still model.

I'm here to give you the constructive criticism it needs and I don't care if I sound too rude or whatever you've got in your mind.
Starting by the models, they're aren't bad, and they aren't good. You look at it and you're like meh, whatever, some other things that bother me, clipping and missing faces. ANY modeler should know those issues make the model look awful as a whole and that they should always avoid that. But your modeler right there didn't seem to give a forget, I saw holes into the scope of some of your guns and I was totally disgusted by it.

Second, the voice effects, seriously.
"Frag out", "Popping smoke" "Ok I planted the C4".
That doesn't fit dude, nobody here uses this kind of thing because they know how awful it sounds, I mean blockheads are FULLY toys, if anything, they'd have a high pitched voice, but those voice effects are just, I mean I don't really have words to describe it. srsly.

I just think you should open your mind when it comes to criticism, you CAN'T say, "well you'll have to do with this", that's now how making a mod works, you aren't making this for yourself, otherwise you just wouldn't release it.
What you're making here is for the community, THEY decide what might look good and what doesn't, not you, I mean you can have your personal stuff in it, but if the community disagrees with it, you might just have to get rid of it.

[SWAT One]

Ctrooper, trust this guy.  He's really good.

[Ctrooper]

You're acting like you're doing us a favor, that we're dying to have your weapons, but that isn't true.
Nobody here is desesperate for your add-ons, I'm not going to spin my head 720 degrees just because someone couldn't handle the truth, I was just as bashed when I started modelling but I didn't quit, I still model.

I'm here to give you the constructive criticism it needs and I don't care if I sound too rude or whatever you've got in your mind.
Starting by the models, they're aren't bad, and they aren't good. You look at it and you're like meh, whatever, some other things that bother me, clipping and missing faces. ANY modeler should know those issues make the model look awful as a whole and that they should always avoid that. But your modeler right there didn't seem to give a forget, I saw holes into the scope of some of your guns and I was totally disgusted by it.

Second, the voice effects, seriously.
"Frag out", "Popping smoke" "Ok I planted the C4".
That doesn't fit dude, nobody here uses this kind of thing because they know how awful it sounds, I mean blockheads are FULLY toys, if anything, they'd have a high pitched voice, but those voice effects are just, I mean I don't really have words to describe it. srsly.

I just think you should open your mind when it comes to criticism, you CAN'T say, "well you'll have to do with this", that's now how making a mod works, you aren't making this for yourself, otherwise you just wouldn't release it.
What you're making here is for the community, THEY decide what might look good and what doesn't, not you, I mean you can have your personal stuff in it, but if the community disagrees with it, you might just have to get rid of it.

okay fine, its obvious you guys hate this stuff so, ill just lock the topic, you know this is why new weapon makers get scared off like this, its because you guys are so loving rude when critiquing, and then when someone gets on your case about maybe being nicer about critiquing, you get all Butt Hurt and compare failures to real life situations, when in fact WE ALL AGREE that this is a game full of toy things, So you know what? Mission accomplished starfishs, you have now led me lock the topic, do you feel good about your selfs? was it really that hard to be civilized and kind when critiquing?(For those of you who posed harsh comments) was it hard to give a desc as to why these models are messed up?(For those who didn't) so thank you for ruining my day. Thank you Khain and swat one for being nice and all, but I guess im just not cut out to deal with heavy criticism, I guess  I should have realized this before I posted the topic, but I just wanted to be a contributer and have this be a little fun pack, and have everyone go on a rage and diss on it, anyways, this will be come a private project that I will host at my server, we will continue to fix stuff, and once we become as good as khain at making weapons we might re release the guns, have a nice day!

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