What is your stance on abortion? (Abortion discussion)

[Jubel]

That's the whole point. Don't start having love unless you are ready for the responsibilities that lie ahead. Otherwise, learn to masturbate.

Let me just rape you now without using a condom.

But sorry, you weren't ready to have love. Looks like you're carrying my child while I rot in prison.

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[Goth77]

Let me just rape you now without using a condom.

But sorry, you weren't ready to have love. Looks like you're carrying my child while I rot in prison.

Rape is a different story. If a girl is raped an ends up pregnant, she has the right to abort the child

[Jubel]

Rape is a different story. If a girl is raped an ends up pregnant, she has the right to abort the child

Condom's aren't even close to 99.9% effective that all companies brag about. They break all the loving time.

So if that goes unnoticed by both couples, that means they're stuck raising a child, even when the people are 16?

[Derontchi]

Condom's aren't even close to 99.9% effective that all companies brag about. They break all the loving time.

So if that goes unnoticed by both couples, that means they're stuck raising a child, even when the people are 16?

Solution: Don't be so incompetent and careless. It was their fault, not the child's.

That's the whole point. Don't start having love unless you are ready for the responsibilities that lie ahead. Otherwise, learn to masturbate.

This so much. Thanks, Goth :)

But seriously though, when did the value of a human life become so little? Babies and children are not a burden. They are not something to just be killed and forgotten about. They are a miracle of life! Reproduction is how our species has survived all this time. Children should not be a tumor to go get removed. They should be treated as humans, because they are. Simple as that.

Rape is a different story. If a girl is raped an ends up pregnant, she has the right to abort the child

Like I said earlier. The child should not be punished for the crimes of his father. Whether it was the mother or the father that made the mistake, the child did nothing and should not be executed for his parents' incompetence. Rape victims should be treated with compassionate comfort, not sticking a shop-vac up their vagina and loving everything up. One tragedy does not warrant another.

[Rally]

Stop saying child, friend. The last person that aborted a child got sent to prison for life without parole. We're talking about a chunk of flesh called a fetus which cannot breath, feel pain, see or recognize sounds.

Babies and children are not a burden.

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[Jubel]

You should really have taken high school biology. A fetus is no more lifelike than the massive zit on my face.

It's a parasite. It is 100% completely a parasite until it is born. Here in Canada, it usually isn't performed by doctors past the 12th week of pregnancy, as only then can it be considered a "separate being", not a mass of cells that vaguely looks like the nasty stuff I took last week.

[Derontchi]

It's that type of mindset, Jubel. That babies are parasites. BABIES ARE HUMANS. ALL HUMANS WERE BABIES AT ONE POINT. It doesn't matter what you want to call them now, they will be humans. They are a a developing human. Jesus you people are stupid. Cells are living. The argument is that it's a living thing, especially one of us. You keep trying to justify it by saying, "Oh well it's technically just a clump of cells hurr hurr I'm progressive!". No. It's a living thing. It's what we all were at one point. They are one of us. It's how we all started.

It's funny, the people who support abortion were actually born.

[Jubel]

Here is a fetus at 12 weeks.

Does it look even close to human? Not very much. Looks more like a chestburster than anything.

Is it sentient? No. It doesn't know anything. It's about as braindead as Derontchi at this point. Completely incapable of rational thought, doesn't know how to smell, and is about as blind as my dead grandmother.

This isn't a child. If it was, it wouldn't be aborted. Simple as that. This is a fetus.
A fetus at week 38 is close to a child. It is sentient, although stupid.

Jesus you people are stupid.

Speak for yourself.
Better go pray to jizz jesus.

[Goth77]

You should really have taken high school biology. A fetus is no more lifelike than the massive zit on my face.

It's a parasite. It is 100% completely a parasite until it is born. Here in Canada, it usually isn't performed by doctors past the 12th week of pregnancy, as only then can it be considered a "separate being", not a mass of cells that vaguely looks like the nasty stuff I took last week.

Yay, let's just have love and forget about the consequences.
And if there are any, we can just kill it off and forget about it.

On the subject of rape: If a female is raped and ends up preggers, I feel like she should be the one to decide whether the child lives or dies, since she at didn't get to decide when or where to have love, the least we can do is let her decide the childs fate.

[Tokthree]

Pretty poor. I mean, have you ever tried to get good footing on a woman who's having an abortion? It's a hell of a challenge I tell you what

[Derontchi]

You're argument, literally, is that it doesn't look like a fully developed human so it isn't a human at all. You're completely ignoring all of biology. And you call me braindead? Okay bud.

[Jubel]

You're completely ignoring all of biology.

No, you are.
At 12 weeks, it's just an extension of a females body. It isn't another separate being yet.

[the hacker]

Cells are living.

So is sperm, but guys still masturbate.
Infertile human embryos are also living, but the human body still kills them if they don't get fertilized.

[Goth77]

No, you are.
At 12 weeks, it's just an extension of a females body. It isn't another separate being yet.

Whether it IS or ISN'T human is a handicapped discussion to begin with.
As soon as the sperm penetrates the egg, a child is created,
no matter how "young" or "underdeveloped" it may be.

[Derontchi]

So is sperm, but guys still masturbate.
Infertile human embryos are also living, but the human body still kills them if they don't get fertilized.

But abortion is not a natural thing. What is your point?

No, you are.
At 12 weeks, it's just an extension of a females body. It isn't another separate being yet.

So we should just give up on it because it wasn't conceived as a full-grown adult? I can't believe your argument. How am I ignoring biology? A fetus is not the first stages of a human? A fetus was not made by humans?

Basically,

Whether it IS or ISN'T human is a handicapped discussion to begin with. As soon as the sperm penetrates the wall of the egg, a child is created, no matter how "young" or "underdeveloped" it may be.