Bye Bye, Windows 7

[Flame]

you get this when you right click the bottom left corner if you don't have something like start8. only time i used to ever see the metro screen is when i accidentally pressed start on my keyboard, but now i use it often because it kinda grew on me

besides, my dad's work uses windows 8. so i mean...

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[NessNet]

Windows 8.1 and proud C:

[carolcat]

when your desktop is where all your downloads go

the computers at school all do this and it pisses me off so much

[blockguy™]

the computers at school all do this and it pisses me off so much

because they don't want anyone to richard with their files

[Nal]

please don't tell me that an argument started here because if so forget all of you

[Katla]

Are you loving serious? Firstly, not everyone is as skilled as you think and secondly, adjustment is always a setback no matter how skilled you are

It's very simple, and skill isn't relevant. If you can recognize an icon, you can use Windows 8.

[General]

It's very simple, and skill isn't relevant. If you can recognize an icon, you can use Windows 8.

Skill is very relevant. Knowing how to use a computer is a skill. Not everyone knows how to use a computer.

Have you ever met someone who stuggles to do something simple on Windows? Evidently not, so don't bother arguing with what you don't know.

[Flame]

please don't tell me that an argument started here because if so forget all of you

an argument starts in every thread on this forum it seems

[Katla]

Not everyone knows how to use a computer.

If you don't know how to use a computer, then you obviously don't work where a computer is part of your job.

[General]

If you don't know how to use a computer, then you obviously don't work where a computer is part of your job.

Computers are part of almost every business and not everyone who's employed has the same skill in using a computer.

[Bomb Kirby]

an argument starts in every thread on this forum it seems

Too true.

[Katla]

Computers are part of almost every business and not everyone who's employed has the same skill in using a computer.

If your job involves using a computer, you know how to use a computer. If you don't, then you wouldn't have been hired to begin with. And if you can use a computer with Windows 7 on it, then you can use a computer with Windows 8 on it. It's not going to matter, and the business won't care, if you have to take five minutes getting used to a new start menu. I still don't know what your point is, though. Regardless of what a business would actually do, why does it matter whether or not they would switch?

[auzman466]

Skill is very relevant. Knowing how to use a computer is a skill. Not everyone knows how to use a computer.

Have you ever met someone who stuggles to do something simple on Windows? Evidently not, so don't bother arguing with what you don't know.

katla, if you bother replying at this point, you'll start digging a hole.
i typed this and forgot i was making this post, and you started digging a hole.

If your job involves using a computer, you know how to use a computer. If you don't, then you wouldn't have been hired to begin with.

this isn't true. i've heard plenty of stories to know that. you've never heard stories of people who aren't good with computers having a job that uses computers?
many jobs involving tech only teach employees how to use the programs they'll need to use, and maybe basic computer training. my mom works at a computer all day, and she doesn't know most things about computers and using them efficiently. she just knows how to do her job.
you must not be good with computers.
my current plan is to wait two or so weeks after windows 10 releases to see what everyone says about it in terms of compatibility, UI friendliness, gaming capability, etc.
if it looks as good as it has in the previews, i'll probably upgrade.

[Katla]

many jobs involving tech only teach employees how to use the programs they'll need to use, and maybe basic computer training. my mom works at a computer all day, and she doesn't know most things about computers and using them efficiently. she just knows how to do her job.

If the business is actually hiring those kinds of people and teaching them how to do basic things, then it's even less valid. They'd just teach them how to use Windows 8, if somehow they still needed help after understanding Windows 7.

you must not be good with computers.

What? I get that you're just trying to insult me personally, for some reason, but shouldn't it at least make sense?

[McJob]

if you have to take five minutes getting used to a new start menu.

At one point I worked PR for HP, operating a new stall for them where they were trying to sell brand new Windows 8 machines. The only machines that sold were the ones that had Windows 7 or didn't have Windows at all.

The Start Screen is rubbish from a practical point of view. The Start Menu is a small, easy to navigate list that contains helpful shortcuts, but it doesn't distract you from the desktop environment. The Start Screen takes up the entire view, and only lists apps that Windows recognises as "Installed". That means that if anybody, such as me, needs to access programs frequently which are not connected to the registry, you ultimately are going to be wasting more time in the Start Screen.

Furthermore, the Start Menu is, as I said, List-Based. It keeps size down and maximises the text, which makes it easy to navigate. The Start Screen is based on icon-view. if you have programs with multiple shortcuts, the screen soon fills up and makes it hard to find what you want.

I fail to see how the Start Screen is good, even for mobile users. I played with a friends Surface 3, and both us had no issues with Classic Start there. Unless you have fat fingers, I fail to see how larger buttons serve any useful purpose.