Who killed Mr. Boddy in the study and with what?: the great debate topic™®

[comr4de]

I'm not implying they will, loving hell. It's an example of how countries have threatened citizens before to quell a rebellion.

And especially nowadays, there is more government power.

>>Vietnam
>>Korea
>>Iraq
>>And now in a brand new flavor: Afghanistan

F-, see me after class.

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[IkeTheGeneric]

Yeah it goes like this:

I don't like your ideals therefore you're wrong (and stupid if i'm a little angry, too).

But that isn't gonna change my views on things.

Your "ideals" are basically a bunch of unfounded claims based off of misconceptions of your surroundings. You have absolutely no idea how a modern-day north american government would react to a rebellion, yet you're arrogant enough to stick your head in the sand and scream that it's 'just muh opinion'. You've done this enough that it's become your routine.

[KickFlow]

they're an unnecessary risk

Do you think the government should find all registered gun owners and take their guns away?
Like, what would be your way of making them illegal?

[Satan From Wreck-It-Ralph]

guns are cool
but you know whats not cool
a crazy with a gun

[Harm94]

>>Vietnam
>>Korea
>>Iraq
>>And now in a brand new flavor: Afghanistan

F-, see me after class.

Don't forget
>>Afghanistan(1979)
>>Chechnya(1994)
>>Rhodesia
>>Yugoslavia

[General]

Your "ideals" are basically a bunch of unfounded claims based off of misconceptions of your surroundings

Excuse me? Aren't all ideals like that or are you specially excluded? I basically think the same thing about your response to my statements, that they are misconceptions based on your surroundings.

You have absolutely no idea how a modern-day north american government would react to a rebellion

And I suppose you do?

[General]

Oh yeah this totally doesn't exist in the first world, right I'm more educated now thanks

[Harm94]

Well dropping nuke on your own country is a bad idea for many reasons. Crop irradiation, water commination, large unintended civilian casualties. Do all those things, you will turn more of your own people against you.  Plus no one wants to support or ally a country that nukes its own people.

Take Rhodesia for example. A country fighting communist rebels during the cold war, however they lost foreign support and as result the rebels kicked out all the remaining white people and ran the country into debt.

Rolling tanks and armored vehicles around is bad idea for many reasons. The rebels can run off into hiding and avoid most confrontations with a mechanized force. In Afghanistan all the Mujahedeen had to do was lay anti tank minds and engage and observe. Transports like BMPs became metal coffins for their passengers and their crews, tanks were destroyed. Even in Chechnya the best soviet tank was of no help.

Roll a something big, and it becames a big game hunt.

Look at the Balkans, the Serbs tried to attack a town with Tanks and ended up losing them all in that attack

[General]

I'm not implying they will, loving hell. It's an example of how countries have threatened citizens before to quell a rebellion.

[Kansas]

God this is literally the stupidest loving argument I hear all the time?

"Daugh da gubmint has tanks an drons an nukes we can't beat them!"

Yes, because in the event of an insurgency the government is just going to carpet bomb/nuke/roll tanks through cities and alienate swathes of american suburbia to kill some rednecks, because that won't alienate the population and ultimately work against them! It's not like they've already learned this lesson from the wars in bumforgetistan!

I really do not want to take that chance

[IkeTheGeneric]

Excuse me? Aren't all ideals like that or are you specially excluded? I basically think the same thing about your response to my statements, that they are misconceptions based on your surroundings.

I put ideals in quotes because what you referred to aren't actually ideals. You came into the thread guns 'a blazing (no pun intended) about something you barely know anything about, and like I said, you're arrogant enough to not change your stance. You aren't trying to debate, you're just trying to be right.

And I suppose you do?

I'm not exactly a history buff but I at least know of a few civil wars enough to get a general idea of what would happen if one happened in modern-day america.

[comr4de]

I really do not want to take that chance

My point that if they /do/ threaten that it'll only serve to alienate the rebelling population further, and would be very clearly a bluff.

Plus at that point (threatening genocide) that's when international entities like the UN get involved in stuff

[portify]

why is Gun. capitalized like that

[IkeTheGeneric]

why is Gun. capitalized like that

because nonnel is concerned about national security

[Kansas]

My point that if they /do/ threaten that it'll only serve to alienate the rebelling population further, and would be very clearly a bluff.

Plus at that point (threatening genocide) that's when international entities like the UN get involved in stuff

I'm glad we'd have so many foreign agencies to step in.

Also, Ike, are you from Ireland or the US

I've noticed that living out from Seattle, there are far less shootings per capita, than out in the country side in small populations. I would definitely say an imbalance in social class develops degenercy. Although other factors come into this, disarming a nation or the stricter laws only cause tension between the government and the people. Banning certain ammunition will not cause criminals to get handle of it. However a M4a1 is a military grade rifle and it feels that there would be better alternatives, I believe that a well aimed shot with a semi auto is just as well off as a full auto, and background checks make the difference between a criminal purchasing a killing tool and a good patriot purchasing a firearm

Also 522 is the worst bill of all time