Who killed Mr. Boddy in the study and with what?: the great debate topic™®

[Mr. Hurricane]

so far this year bullets have killed more people than guns

and catastrophic exsanguination cause by bullets has also killed more people than guns

[Ad Bot]

[Maxwell.]

we should ban bullets

[Foxscotch]

So was the knife, the axe, the spear, and the bow

both axes and knives have plenty of real, legitimate, non-murdery uses

We were? At least it was implied? Want to inform me on what it is we're talking about?

yeah i don't think "serious depression" is known to cause people to wanna kill other people

[Rally]

both axes and knives have plenty of real, legitimate, non-murdery uses

Knives have non lethal uses? We're not talking about butter knives here. There is no use for the Karambit except to injure people, or for the novelty of owning one (which is also a large motive behind why people buy firearms). The axe has about one non-lethal use, to chop wood.

[Ipquarx]

I read the past few pages and I still have no idea what's being debated... So I'll just throw in my 2 cents: There's always going to be a situation where deadly force is needed.

[XR-7]

Knives have non lethal uses? We're not talking about butter knives here. There is no use for the Karambit except to injure people, or for the novelty of owning one (which is also a large motive behind why people buy firearms). The axe has about one non-lethal use, to chop wood.

Um knives are used for cutting things? You know, meat, fishing line, plastic packaging, assortments of other things.

[Nonnel]

Knives have non lethal uses? We're not talking about butter knives here. There is no use for the Karambit except to injure people, or for the novelty of owning one (which is also a large motive behind why people buy firearms). The axe has about one non-lethal use, to chop wood.

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[Maxwell.]

Question mark.

[Foxscotch]

Knives have non lethal uses? We're not talking about butter knives here. There is no use for the Karambit except to injure people, or for the novelty of owning one (which is also a large motive behind why people buy firearms).

yeah...
cutting through brush, whittling, cutting meat, skinning fish

The axe has about one non-lethal use, to chop wood.

I don't think firefighters use them for killing people or chopping wood, so

[IkeTheGeneric]

gas stoves, unlike guns, are not designed and created to kill people

You're missing the point; it doesn't matter if it's a gas stove, or anything else that's potentially dangerous. The point is that if some people don't know how to properly handle a piece of equipment, that doesn't mean that piece of equipment should be illegal, it just means that more people should be getting training to properly handle the said piece of equipment.

With the point of guns being manufactured to kill, then it makes sense people should at least have proper safety training before buying a gun. Because some people fail to have training before buying a gun is the reason accidents happen, not because guns are inherently dangerous. If you put a loaded handgun on a table, it isn't going to kill anyone by itself.

Just like somebody who knows how to use a gas stove isn't going to burn down the house, somebody with proper training and responsibility that also owns a firearm aren't a harm to society.

[Foxscotch]

Because some people fail to have training before buying a gun is the reason accidents happen, not because guns are inherently dangerous.

then almost nothing is inherently dangerous. there isn't even any such thing as dangerous. if you know how to deal with a cougar, you'll be fine. so I guess they're not inherently dangerous, it's just that some people don't know how to fight one off

guns are dangerous. if you have to say "as long as you know how to use it there's no problem" then that means whatever you're talking about is dangerous

[plad101]

then almost nothing is inherently dangerous. there isn't even any such thing as dangerous. if you know how to deal with a cougar, you'll be fine. so I guess they're not inherently dangerous, it's just that some people don't know how to fight one off

I don't think he ever said those who know how to use a gun magicly make them not dangerous, guns will always be dangerous but when used properly and by a trained individual they are less dangerous.

[IkeTheGeneric]

then almost nothing is inherently dangerous. there isn't even any such thing as dangerous. if you know how to deal with a cougar, you'll be fine. so I guess they're not inherently dangerous, it's just that some people don't know how to fight one off

"Inherently dangerous" by definition means that by nature, the thing is dangerous. A gun isn't dangerous by nature. like I said, a gun that is laid on a table without any interference isn't going to kill you.

guns are dangerous. if you have to say "as long as you know how to use it there's no problem" then that means whatever you're talking about is dangerous

No matter what gun it is, you can still kill somebody with it. Guns always have the potential to harm or kill. With that said, a firearm in the hands of somebody competent isn't inherently dangerous.

People with training who go to firing ranges to go target shooting don't run the risk of injury or death.

[Rally]

Um knives are used for cutting things? You know, meat, fishing line, plastic packaging, assortments of other things.

yeah...
cutting through brush, whittling, cutting meat, skinning fish

I was certain I made reference to knives that were specifically created for combat? Nobody buys a ka-bar to skin fish.
Knives that are used for plastic packaging wont be great for lethal force. Yes you can cause bodily harm with them, y'know, as you can with a butterknife. Nobody buys a zip blade to kill people. Most non-combat knives are also built with a single purpose in mind.

I don't think firefighters use them for killing people or chopping wood, so

Chopping wood doors? It's a lever with a blade on it. There's not much you can use it for.
But y'know as I said, a Fire-axe is built with a single situation in mind. Nobody is using tomahawks or labrys for garden work.

then almost nothing is inherently dangerous. there isn't even any such thing as dangerous. if you know how to deal with a cougar, you'll be fine. so I guess they're not inherently dangerous, it's just that some people don't know how to fight one off

guns are dangerous. if you have to say "as long as you know how to use it there's no problem" then that means whatever you're talking about is dangerous

You serious? A cougar is a carnivore that eats, sleeps and breathes. You cannot compare this to a loving gun.

[Harm94]

@Nightfox: The also make less lethal ammo, ammo that was designed not to kill people.



Not everyone keeps a gun for home defense or to rise up against the state. There are many people who own them just for the sake of shooting inanimate objects such paper targets, clay, and old rusty cars. Basically recreational shooting. Some like to hunt. Others use them for multiple purposes. They even having sporting use. There is the biathlon where you ski with a rifle and you have to shoot targets, this sport is shown during the Winter Olympics. There is the marksmenship shooting, this also shown during the summer Olympics. There is speed shooting where you have to quickly hit a target or many targets quickly and accurately as possible.

guns are dangerous. if you have to say "as long as you know how to use it there's no problem" then that means whatever you're talking about is dangerous

Blades are still dangerous if you aren't using them right. Do you know why a dull knife is more dangerous than a sharp one?
Bladed weapons are still in use in the military as well
http://image.macho.co/img/2013/11/Gerber-Tactical-Tomahawk-1.jpg

If a bladed weapon can be repurposed to something else, then so can a firearm.