Archipelago – Late Summer, 1827 – New Moderator Position Open

[Juncoph]

god dammit

new idea: invent horse-tank. kill forest-pakis.

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[SWAT One]

Army of giant armored goats to chew up the entire forest.

[CypherX]

Maybe Vlast/Astura should figure out what drugs these tribesmen are taking before battle? If you can limit that supply they'll be easier to defeat.

Elmic officials are opting for a partial government reform by establishing a federacy amongst the UEK and its protectorate states, in order strengthen the unity of the state. The Tsar looks into this but has yet to form a will for the matter.

Taczowa's, Noastadt's, Kyrev's, the Elmic region's, Genera's, and Kyrnov's governments and populations are polled on the matter.

The Elmic region's populace is in favour by 80%, and its government is in favour by 90%, however the Tsar's inaction on the matter leaves the poll open.

The annexation of some Taczowan territories, and thus their divided population, suggests that Taczowa will be in favour of a federacy. Of course, the polls haven't returned yet.

The Kyrevan government supports this, and the populace responds to the plebiscite with a 74/26 split, in favor of an asymmetric federation.

[Juncoph]

The Kyrevan government supports this, and the populace responds to the plebiscite with a 74/26 split, in favor of an asymmetric federation.

SWAT, what do the rest say?

[SWAT One]

Sorry, I'll have to do it when I get home.  I have a lot on my plate until then.

[Juncoph]

alright, until then i'll state this for reference-

asymmetric federations/federacies are basically federations, but the states have varying levels of autonomy. this means that, genera, for example, wouldn't be totally assimilated by accepting entry into a federacy.

[SteveJenkins]

There's really not a significant difference from military and civilian in Dudal.

derp, ignore the civilian part then I guess

Astura sends a small number (roughly 80) of Vanguard soldiers trained for stealth in the forests of Dudal. They are tasked with finding campsites of Dudal warriors, gaining control of the campsites and obtaining at least one of their drugs to be researched on. Information of the drugs will be sent to Vlast if they wish.

A battalion of 500 Lance soldiers are sent on patrols in an attempt to pull the Dudal warriors from their camps

*If i get a hold of the drugs I plan of replicating them for my military

[Mr. Hurricane]

Vlastcovite forces have razed one of the clan-villages. Any resistance is massacred by the surrounding footsmen and various cavalry units working inside the village.

[Plethora]

Following an increasing presence of Teleri shipping around Drulland, Telar sends out diplomatic feelers to the coastal territory east of the colony in hopes of establishing a quasi-colony where locals and Teleri merchants would work in conjunction to facilitate trade and Telar could establish a local naval base and shipyards for the mutual protection if Teleri and local interests.

[Plethora]

Doublepost, sue me.

The governments of the UEK's included states, with the exception of Genera's, are all in favor of federation by a wide margin, believing that it will bring economic improvement and political stability, but the majority of the people, especially the older generations, believe that it will be the end of their local cultures.  Genera's government prefers its current level of autonomy and believes that it has only to lose by federation with the other states, and it seems apparent that if Genera would be swayed, it must retain an abnormal level of autonomy and influence within the federation, rivaling the UEK's even; oddly enough, the people of Genera are less worried about cultural assimilation than in other places.

Telar continues to probe the third world for a place that will be willing to work with it.  Meanwhile, two national academies, one of the arts and the other of the sciences & technology, are established in Königstadt.  Teachers are enlisted from throughout the world for the purpose of teaching in the university of science and technology.

[Juncoph]

Doublepost, sue me.

The governments of the UEK's included states, with the exception of Genera's, are all in favor of federation by a wide margin, believing that it will bring economic improvement and political stability, but the majority of the people, especially the older generations, believe that it will be the end of their local cultures.  Genera's government prefers its current level of autonomy and believes that it has only to lose by federation with the other states, and it seems apparent that if Genera would be swayed, it must retain an abnormal level of autonomy and influence within the federation, rivaling the UEK's even; oddly enough, the people of Genera are less worried about cultural assimilation than in other places.

Telar continues to probe the third world for a place that will be willing to work with it.  Meanwhile, two national academies, one of the arts and the other of the sciences & technology, are established in Königstadt.  Teachers are enlisted from throughout the world for the purpose of teaching in the university of science and technology.

so did you just completely disregard what i said just a few posts back about a federacy allowing genera's government to remain largely autonomous and how it isn't a federation

[CypherX]

Doublepost, sue me.

The governments of the UEK's included states, with the exception of Genera's, are all in favor of federation by a wide margin, believing that it will bring economic improvement and political stability, but the majority of the people, especially the older generations, believe that it will be the end of their local cultures.  Genera's government prefers its current level of autonomy and believes that it has only to lose by federation with the other states, and it seems apparent that if Genera would be swayed, it must retain an abnormal level of autonomy and influence within the federation, rivaling the UEK's even; oddly enough, the people of Genera are less worried about cultural assimilation than in other places.

Telar continues to probe the third world for a place that will be willing to work with it.  Meanwhile, two national academies, one of the arts and the other of the sciences & technology, are established in Königstadt.  Teachers are enlisted from throughout the world for the purpose of teaching in the university of science and technology.

Sorry to be curt, but this part of the message irritates me. Juncoph specifically elaborated on what the UEK would like to form, found here;

alright, until then i'll state this for reference-

asymmetric federations/federacies are basically federations, but the states have varying levels of autonomy. this means that, genera, for example, wouldn't be totally assimilated by accepting entry into a federacy.

An asymmetric federation/federacy is a federation with one or more political subdivisions having more autonomy than the others, with a federacy being a more extreme variant of an asymmetric federation. Genera would retain much of its independence in either system, more so in a federacy than an asymmetric federation. What you said Genera wanted is precisely what the UEK was proposing.

[SWAT One]

Burellis begins to send out ships around Devewin to place micro-colony ports as critical stopping points along the coast.

Burellis attempts to contact the peoples between itself and Espovon, with the goal of annexing the territory.  Burellis promises the same as it did to the peoples in the recently I acquired eastern zone.

[Plethora]

so did you just completely disregard what i said just a few posts back about a federacy allowing genera's government to remain largely autonomous and how it isn't a federation

The Generan government is looking at the likely future repercussions of adjoining itself to the UEK (federacy evolving into a unitary state), and the defeated peoples widely believe that further political alignment would water down their weakened positions further.

Bear in mind, too, that it's been less than a decade since your nations subdued this area.  You don't have generations of working together under your belt, or a long standing system.  Defeat is fresh, and you really can't expect nations to just roll over and accept what they have no reason to believe won't be tightened reins.

This movement is coming from the UEK, the victor, why should anyone expect it do anything but restrict the states further?

Governments are supporting this because for the most part they're already weakened by wars and see probable subservience as a means of rebuilding, whereas peoples are less in favor because their national identities are still strong.  Genera is opposite because it already has relative autonomy (if memory serves) and the local government only serves to lose power, while its people are neutral/mildly in favor because of their state's strength and because I wanted to a) be reasonable and not have a region completely opposed and b) mix things up in the response.

That's my take on things.  If you feel justice/moderation/realism has been miscarried, yell at me tomorrow.  Right now I've got a warm bed calling my name.

[Juncoph]

that's not why i was angry, i was angry because you called it a federation