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Author Topic: Pizzaria in my town raises $842k over gays rights debacle, reopens to full house  (Read 35014 times)

Where in the bible does it say that you can't serve pizza to homoloveuals?
are you loving kidding me

im stating the fact because its a homoloveual wedding ceremony.

im not saying they should refuse to serve pizza to homoloveuals. if you they cant do that then yes i feel like yes the place should be shut down because thats outrageous

are you loving kidding me

im stating the fact because its a homoloveual wedding ceremony.

im not saying they should refuse to serve pizza to homoloveuals. if you they cant do that then yes i feel like yes the place should be shut down because thats outrageous
All right... so where in the bible does it say that you can't cater pizza for a gay wedding?

I don't think anyone's actually being fooled into thinking that the "religious freedom" thing is anything but an aspect of a motte and bailey argument, since as Generic has demonstrated, the "homoloveuality is inherently bad" thing is not going to work in 2015.

All right... so where in the bible does it say that you can't cater pizza for a gay wedding?

I don't think anyone's actually being fooled into thinking that the "religious freedom" thing is anything but an aspect of a motte and bailey argument, since as Generic has demonstrated, the "homoloveuality is inherently bad" thing is not going to work in 2015.
how bout this.

christians love God. they are taught to love God more than anything. if you commit a sin, you hurt God, cos the bible says that he loves you, and when you betray him by breaking his rules, it hurts him. so do you think that a christian who has a strong faith and love for god, is going to want to have anything to do with a gay wedding?

this pizzeria is handicapped

how bout this.

christians love God. they are taught to love God more than anything. if you commit a sin, you hurt God, cos the bible says that he loves you, and when you betray him by breaking his rules, it hurts him. so do you think that a christian who has a strong faith and love for god, is going to want to have anything to do with a gay wedding?
yeah, but jesus ate dinner with whores and thieves and he cleaned his disciples feet (which is bad for some reason)
did jesus ever told gay people to forget off and die? no, if anything, jesus would of loving fed them stuff or something like that.

how bout this.

christians love God. they are taught to love God more than anything. if you commit a sin, you hurt God, cos the bible says that he loves you, and when you betray him by breaking his rules, it hurts him. so do you think that a christian who has a strong faith and love for god, is going to want to have anything to do with a gay wedding?
I don't give a stuff about what loopholes or compromises you need in order to justify not being a bigot to yourself. Figure it out. Many Christians have. It's not exactly my area of expertise. Here's an article on it, from what appears at first glance to be a Christian perspective.

yeah, but jesus ate dinner with whores and thieves and he cleaned his disciples feet (which is bad for some reason)
did jesus ever told gay people to forget off and die? no, if anything, jesus would of loving fed them stuff or something like that.
Exactly. Christianity (and indeed, most religions) emphasize tolerance and just generally not being an starfish to people. I imagine Jesus of Nazareth would be truly ashamed of his followers' trying to use his religion as a justification for bigotry.

yeah, but jesus ate dinner with whores and thieves and he cleaned his disciples feet (which is bad for some reason)
did jesus ever told gay people to forget off and die? no, if anything, jesus would of loving fed them stuff or something like that.

and yet he never encouraged or participated in their criminal behavior. what's your point?

yeah, but jesus ate dinner with whores and thieves and he cleaned his disciples feet (which is bad for some reason)
did jesus ever told gay people to forget off and die? no, if anything, jesus would of loving fed them stuff or something like that.
yeah and jesus forgave them of their sins and they became free of the such sins.

and yet he never encouraged or participated in their criminal behavior. what's your point?
So is serving food for a service you openly advertise participating in their behavior? Is being in an elevator with an openly gay couple the same as participating in their "sin".

Does being paid for a service to feed a group somehow translate into a wrongdoing?

how bout this.

christians love God. they are taught to love God more than anything. if you commit a sin, you hurt God, cos the bible says that he loves you, and when you betray him by breaking his rules, it hurts him. so do you think that a christian who has a strong faith and love for god, is going to want to have anything to do with a gay wedding?
But they're not getting married to same love people themself, they're just giving food to people attending one.
You could argue their still associating with sinners, and you'd be right in that case.
But everyone sins. You can't not sin, because many things you do frequently, and even some of the most basic of human emotions are sins. So everyone they associate with is a sinner. But for some reason, homoloveuality is the only sin they can't associate with? It's just more picking and choosing

yeah, but jesus ate dinner with whores and thieves and he cleaned his disciples feet (which is bad for some reason)
did jesus ever told gay people to forget off and die? no, if anything, jesus would of loving fed them stuff or something like that.

jesus didnt undo anything from the old testament. other then the part about not needing to sacrifice crops and livestock anymore to be forgiven your sins (thus why jesus was killed).

everything still applies. even the hatred that god demands of you. jesus is not a god. god has already told you what to do.

So is serving food for a service you openly advertise participating in their behavior?

there's a difference between feeding a kidnapper and giving him rope. there's a difference between feeding a murderer and giving him a knife. there's a difference between feeding a thief and distracting the store owner. there's a difference between feeding an adulterer and helping him cover his actions up. there's a difference between feeding a gay person and participating in their ceremony.

But they're not getting married to same love people themself, they're just giving food to people attending one.
You could argue their still associating with sinners, and you'd be right in that case.
But everyone sins. You can't not sin, because many things you do frequently, and even some of the most basic of human emotions are sins. So everyone they associate with is a sinner. But for some reason, homoloveuality is the only sin they can't associate with? It's just more picking and choosing
Its also basically a Christians JOB to associate with sinners and share their message should anyone show an interest. Christians are suppose to be far more passive aggressive.

there's a difference between feeding a kidnapper and giving him rope. there's a difference between feeding a murderer and giving him a knife. there's a difference between feeding a thief and distracting the store owner. there's a difference between feeding an adulterer and helping him cover his actions up. there's a difference between feeding a gay person and participating in their ceremony.
Some Christians might see it as an opportunity to kindly share the word instead of abstaining from sinners like they're the plague. I refuse to believe that basic decency and neutrality makes you a part of their ceremony. This basically means i'm required NOT to treat people like people and shut them out, that goes AGAINST the teaching that i'm to walk the earth and share the Gospel. And earth WHICH is full of sinners.

i don't know how selling a schizophrenic a knife is going to help share the Word any more than having the government force people to cater to gay ceremonies under anti-discrimination ordinances is going to

the restaurant already said they're more than willing to serve gays. the only thing they said is that they won't participate in a theoretical ceremony