Author Topic: Americans choose Harriet Tubman to be on the $20 bill  (Read 48663 times)

i'm generally disinclined to jump to that kind of thing even if it technically would describe whatever phenomenon is occurring, for fairly obv reasons of not wanting to label people for not much a reason other than the sake of doing so
oh it's not a jump. he's definitely loveist, not to mention tribal also

Lol, Caribou is Cantaloupe? That makes too much sense.

Anyone interested in seeing Caribou's greatest hits?


out of pity I'll leave out the post he was banned for. you guys can look it up yourselves if you want to see what happens when an outright tribal gets backed into a corner on the internet.

Oh, I stand corrected. There's something wrong with the forum's search feature then, since I was only getting the single post where Cantaloupe mentioned Riddler.
yeah it only gets one result per thread. honestly I'm not sure what that's all about but it seems like a pretty big issue that they'd have handled by the time SMF 1.1.20 was released
This annoys me to no end, because while it only gives one result per topic, that result in the topicis ALWAYS the most recently posted one.
So if you're looking for something specifically mentioned in a topic, but other people have then mentioned it too (without quoting the other person) then you end up in a difficult position. Especially if the topic has like 20+ pages, because your only choice is to go crawling through it manually, provided you even know it's in that topic.

there are like 100 of them (?). and they are all separate nations of different people XD
I prefer to say the res than a res, but yeah there also like a bunch of nations aswells

This annoys me to no end, because while it only gives one result per topic, that result in the topicis ALWAYS the most recently posted one.
So if you're looking for something specifically mentioned in a topic, but other people have then mentioned it too (without quoting the other person) then you end up in a difficult position. Especially if the topic has like 20+ pages, because your only choice is to go crawling through it manually, provided you even know it's in that topic.
Here here.

I'm all for SMF being updated here, however, whatever licensing system (I'm unaware if there is one on place) is in place is probably cheaper to maintain it as is.

the words are obv joking but the motivating sentiment isn't

men are not innately more inclined nor more capable to be providers; that idea is purely cultural.
men have traditionally, in many cultures, been the 'breadwinners,' esp. in industrialised society, but this is not by any means a natural order.
in recent years and as the trend continues, we've seen, however, a departure from this idea in favour of a more-equal viewpoint where gender roles are much less-important in that sense. women are more likely than ever to be single and hold higher-skill jobs, and families are more likely due to economic conditions to be dual-income. at the same time, families reduce spending in general as per their need

men are, of course, for various reasons, whether you want to mark it up to de facto discrimination or the glass ceiling or coincidence or what have you, the primary holders of higher-paying jobs in the united states. this is not by nature nor by mandate, it is purely the product of man. and, of course, this has also been in decline over the past years as traditional gender roles deteriorate.

as for your comment about women's spending, it is not, in any capacity, ever sound to make sweeping generalisations about massive groups of people. the way people deal with their money is something that cannot be related to gender in any way as far as i'm concerned or aware. i don't really understand your underlying reasoning for that statement. surely, as women are human beings and people just as everyone else, they have their own individual inclinations and impulses to buy and participate in consumerism, just as any man?
Before we talk about gender roles, we need to talk about biology. You should ask why gender roles exist instead of just noticing that they exist. They make biological sense. Gender roles came to be how they are through the roles men and women played before civilization. "Gender roles" aren't a solid set of rules implemented into society, they are simply an idea that we have implemented into us by nature. They make use of the strengths of masculinity and the strengths of femininity to produce a most effective survival of our species.

The reason things like masculinity and femininity exist is because we are a loveually dimorphic species. If you look, not only at humans, but at just about every other land-borne mammal, you will see that the males and the females are significantly different, in appearance and in behavior. For example, in many mammal species, males tend to have about 5-15% more body mass than the females of the species. Now, as for behavior, I'm speaking about the differences between masculinity and femininity. Now, I have not done much research as to why the two are so different, but my theory is that since females are the life-givers, the way for our species to survive. It only makes evolutionary sense that they should not be the ones to engage in combat. That's where males come in. Since males only provide the seed, they are the more disposable gender. It makes evolutionary sense that they are the ones to protect the female and the child. Thus, each is equipped with either masculinity or femininity to fit their biological purpose. Masculinity aids in aggressiveness and provider skills, and femininity aids in nurturing and caretaking skills.

Therefore, when you talk about gender roles, you are talking about the modern embodiment of our natural human instincts. Hopefully I don't need to further explain why I said what I said, as I have just given you the reasons for why it is so. The reason men have the innate desire to provide is because of evolution and biology. It does not make any sense to say that it is all a societal construct. Even then, the only way it would be allowed to become a societal contstruct is by acknowledging the biological differences between men and women in nature.

Here here.

I'm all for SMF being updated here, however, whatever licensing system (I'm unaware if there is one on place) is in place is probably cheaper to maintain it as is.
SMF is free and open source
The bigger issue is the custom modifications that have been made to it

Read it as Harry Tubman, even after looking at the picture I didn't realise she was a woman until I re-read it as Harriet.


The only problem with your logic is that you are not directly affected by your great grandfather today. Blacks still have never gotten official compensation for anything their ancestors went through, and are still in the poorest areas of the country enduring racism and hardship today.

Regarding reparations for slavery:
I actually am affected by when and how my greatgrandfather died and what he did, but that's irrelevant. Dead people aren't paying reparations, we would be. I'm not going to let my tax money go to a bunch of random people easily because they had some great great relatives who got royally forgeted over. If this stuff was like 20 years ago or something then fine, but it wasn't, it's been like 3 generations.

the idiots in this thread are making it hilarious

I actually am affected by when and how my greatgrandfather died and what he did, but that's irrelevant. Dead people aren't paying reparations, we would be. I'm not going to let my tax money go to a bunch of random people easily because they had some great great relatives who got royally forgeted over. If this stuff was like 20 years ago or something then fine, but it wasn't, it's been like 3 generations.
I don't think we should pay 'slavery reparations' in the form of like, an actual check or anything.

However, it's our personal responsibility, as the offspring of families that weren't as disadvantaged, to support social programs that help people who do sit lower in society because of the families they were born into.

I don't think we should pay 'slavery reparations' in the form of like, an actual check or anything.

However, it's our personal responsibility, as the offspring of families that weren't as disadvantaged, to support social programs that help people who do sit lower in society because of the families they were born into.

The issue I find with this is that in any given capitalistic society there's going to be a lower class. Providing today's lower class with help to raise them up just shifts different people into the 'lower class' area. The notion that black people are inherently less deserving of the lower class position than other races because of their history is in itself tribal. I'm not saying that black people should be lower class, but I'm saying they're no more deserving than anyone else in the lower class to be raised from that level. That statement is race-neutral, not tribal.

In a race-neutral society, emulsifying races between classes is a non-issue. In one that places excessive importance on race, it isn't.

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