Author Topic: Letter from Ex-Waffen SS member to Spielberg referencing Saving Private Ryan.  (Read 2391 times)

Yes, and that order made him a war criminal, according to his Wikipedia biography page. Again, there is a difference between what the orders were and what the soldiers believed. You're practically saying, "one guy gave the order, therefore most national socialists were tribal." That logic doesn't really work. Again, we're not talking about what the soldiers were told, and what they believed. Therefore, the rest of your argument is irrelevant in this case.
learn2history, seriously get good because Zombi is right.

Seriously, read up on Rommel. There were plenty of people in Germany military who were against Riddler and disobeyed his orders when it came to things like jews.
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They were a tool for the national socialist government, that doesn't make all of them full blown tribals.



it's not what they believed, it's that "protecting germany" in the way national socialist propaganda explained it is inherently tribal. if they, as you say, joined out a sense of protecting their country, and if "protecting their country" as espoused by the national socialist was inherently tribal, wouldn't that make the soldiers tribal? sure, you could say that the soldiers were ignorant/didn't regard poles, russians, jews, or the myriad other groups the massacred human, but that doesn't mean they aren't tribal.
But remember, it wasn't only racial purity that made them power-hungry. It was the desire to control, to dominate. I still fail to see your logic. It's not to say that they joined to promote and realize racial purity. I see how, technically, the military was under the control of the government, which the national socialist party happened to have control of. However, that does not automatically make each individual tribal, because the point of the military is to better and defend the country, not necessarily to realize an agenda. Take it from the guy who was there.

But remember, it wasn't only racial purity that made them power-hungry. It was the desire to control, to dominate. I still fail to see your logic. It's not to say that they joined to promote and realize racial purity. I see how, technically, the military was under the control of the government, which the national socialist party happened to have control of. However, that does not automatically make each individual tribal, because the point of the military is to better and defend the country, not necessarily to realize an agenda. Take it from the guy who was there.
The guy... who was part of the SS, you mean? The Waffen SS. The German SS. The military arm of the national socialist political party. The person who has the most potential to be biased or otherwise irrationally hostile, tribal, or despotic.

Yeah, no.

I'd also like to point out that nobody (no German anyways) was drafted into the SS before 1943.
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yeah he dead

yeah he wrote a book

The guy... who was part of the SS, you mean? The Waffen SS. The German SS. The military arm of the national socialist political party. The person who has the most potential to be biased or otherwise irrationally hostile, tribal, or despotic.
and your JIDF sources on the matter are better?

and your JIDF sources on the matter are better?
oh my loving god

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and your JIDF sources on the matter are better?
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learn2history, seriously get good because Zombi is right.

Seriously, read up on Rommel. There were plenty of people in Germany military who were against Riddler and disobeyed his orders when it came to things like jews.
I think you mean i'm right then, because Zombi is the one claiming all national socialists are tribal.

I think you mean i'm right then, because Zombi is the one claiming all national socialists are tribal.
i think zombi just blew a blood vessel


I think you mean i'm right then, because Zombi is the one claiming all national socialists are tribal.

A very vast majority were. Stop trying to defend people that did stuffty things, of course after they lost everyone rushed to show how they weren't as bad as everyone else. They were like a kid getting caught for something red handed and blaming someone else.

I think you mean i'm right then, because Zombi is the one claiming all national socialists are tribal.
i think you mean that the soldiers weren't all tribal