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Some very interesting commentary going on in here. I didn't expect this much inexperience and generalization of other humans.

try this one
This isn't half bad, thanks for linking me this.


Why didnt you comment on everything else he had to say. You took one think from the whole.
He isn't obligated to really. If he wants to comment on one thing, he can comment on one thing.
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Some very interesting commentary going on in here. I didn't expect this much inexperience and generalization of other humans.
hey i just don't like my meat burnt

Why didnt you comment on everything else he had to say. You took one think from the whole.
maybe he didn't value everything i had to say. there's no rule saying you have to respect what everyone says.

Is it hard to express yourself in 420 Kush Land?
Everybody has a funny side. You shouldnt discredit my words just because i have something in my bio that i thought was funny some time ago. Theres something good you can learn from everyone, no matter now knowledgeable or ignorant they are, no matter formal or informal.

i know plenty of people who wear hoodies and baggy pants and aren't gang members. i also know tons of milktoast little dudes who are total sociopaths, far more dangerous than some imaginary gangbanger. you see, you're basing someone's character on their clothes and the color of their skin, you know... like racism. your preconception of what acting like a "gang member" is is completely isolated to being black.

I didn't realize wearing baggy clothes and a hoodie is exclusive to black people and what being black means.
If I see anyone (white, black, asian) wearing baggy clothes and a hoodie (not just looking like this though, but this is what you're talking about), I'm gonna be on high alert. If I see anyone looking/acting suspicious I'm gonna be on high alert.

i love this one. you see, a monday is a derogatory term for a black person.

Not universally. It can be used like "bro" or "dude" like trinick said

what is intelligence?

The ability to learn, and solve and pose problems. That's one of the theories anyway.

what makes our knowledge of Proust more important than the knowledge of how to hunt and track a deer in a forest? what makes our knowledge of philosophy more important than the ability to start a fire anywhere and cook a rabbit with your bare hands? it's all arbitrary, and it's an invalid argument, the same one imperialists used to justify murdering natives so they could sell bananas and coffee
and once again someone says some tribal stuff while constantly affirming they are in fact not tribal.
no i think that's just his opinion.

There is a study that shows the average IQ in Africa is significantly lower than other countries. Obviously that doesn't really mean anything since there are an uncountable number of factors at play and we all know Africa is a total mess.

I don't think it has anything to do with actual intelligence, just lack of decent education opportunities.

That's probably what he's basing it off of.

agreed. you can't place a universal definition on the word that already exists, as setro and trinick are trying to do.

the thing about colloquialism is that the only thing that really validates slang is the fact that everyone who understands it agrees on it. Balsamic vinaigrette is not slang for spongebob yet because we have yet to decide and agree that it is slang. and monday has yet to mean lazy black people because, contrary to what you may believe, most people still see it as nothing more than an insult, and i am in that camp.

You're right; there isn't a universal definition for any word, really. "monday" doesn't universally mean "bro" or "dude" but it also doesn't universally mean a derogatory term for a black person.

try this one

pretty nice

Some very interesting commentary going on in here. I didn't expect this much inexperience and generalization of other humans.

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Everybody has a funny side. You shouldnt discredit my words just because i have something in my bio that i thought was funny some time ago. Theres something good you can learn from everyone, no matter now knowledgeable or ignorant they are, no matter formal or informal.

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I hate it when people try to use your jokes or funny side as a way to try to "discredit" someone's arguments or intelligence. It's loving stupid.
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'ey electrk, keep doin you bb

agreed. you can't place a universal definition on the word that already exists, as setro and trinick are trying to do.

Am not! I'm literally trying to say that there's more definitions to a word than just the denotative definition!

Why didnt you comment on everything else he had to say. You took one think from the whole.

I didn't disagree with the other things he had to say. I only disagreed with that one part.


I didn't disagree with the other things he had to say. I only disagreed with that one part.
I assumed the wrong thing. My fault.

I didn't realize wearing baggy clothes and a hoodie is exclusive to black people and what being black means.
If I see anyone (white, black, asian) wearing baggy clothes and a hoodie (not just looking like this though, but this is what you're talking about), I'm gonna be on high alert. If I see anyone looking/acting suspicious I'm gonna be on high alert.
setro was more specific in pointing out those people were black - of course, anyone can look ratty with a big hoodie. but even so, i wear pretty baggy jeans and a big coat cus it's comfortable. i could wear my nice suit with the tie, but that's a hassle. i prefer big clothes. it's merely a preference.

and as an aside, gang violence is almost always isolated to areas of gang activity. rich people seem to think G's are walking into their neighborhoods looking to steal their stuff but almost always that's not the case, it's just fear.

Not universally. It can be used like "bro" or "dude" like trinick said
i make a distinction between "brother" and "monday", the same way i make a distinction between "herd" and "heard". it doesn't seem likely that dudes are going around saying hi to their black friends with the hard r in the word.

they're two different words.

There is a study that shows the average IQ in Africa is significantly lower than other countries. Obviously that doesn't really mean anything since there are an uncountable number of factors at play and we all know Africa is a total mess.

I don't think it has anything to do with actual intelligence, just lack of decent education opportunities.
IQ tests are pretty valid, but personally i believe all knowledge is ultimately subjective. you'd be pretty confused if you were forced to take yam farming lessons because you don't live in papua new guinea - likewise, they don't really understand or need to learn about integrals.

You're right; there isn't a universal definition for any word, really. "monday" doesn't universally mean "bro" or "dude" but it also doesn't universally mean a derogatory term for a black person.
i make the distinction between the two words. i don't think i'm alone in this opinion as well.

Am not! I'm literally trying to say that there's more definitions to a word than just the denotative definition!
there are, of course. im saying that any word can have a different definition. i can say that the word "procrastinate" now means a russian taxi driver, and that's technically valid. but if someone says im procrastinating and i shoot back "im bulgarian you starfish!", they might be confused, because the meaning of a word is just what we all agree on. and i think that most people don't agree with monday means what you're arguing it can mean.

it's spelled *milquetoast*

setro was more specific in pointing out those people were black - of course, anyone can look ratty with a big hoodie. but even so, i wear pretty baggy jeans and a big coat cus it's comfortable. i could wear my nice suit with the tie, but that's a hassle. i prefer big clothes. it's merely a preference.

I'm not saying you should dress up fancily

and as an aside, gang violence is almost always isolated to areas of gang activity. rich people seem to think G's are walking into their neighborhoods looking to steal their stuff but almost always that's not the case, it's just fear.

That's why I didn't limit it to just "gang" clothing or even clothing. I'm talking about criminals in general.

IQ tests are pretty valid, but personally i believe all knowledge is ultimately subjective. you'd be pretty confused if you were forced to take yam farming lessons because you don't live in papua new guinea - likewise, they don't really understand or need to learn about integrals.

I agree, but there is a difference between knowledge and intelligence.

it's spelled *milquetoast*

wel excus u mr know it all

I'm not saying you should dress up fancily
agreed, forget dress shoes. i'll wear airforce 1's to my wedding if i can

That's why I didn't limit it to just "gang" clothing or even clothing. I'm talking about criminals in general.
i just inferred that, what setro saw that made those dudes "shady" was the fact that they were wearing hoodies and they were black.

I agree, but there is a difference between knowledge and intelligence.
even then, an IQ test created in japan is gonna be different than one made in croatia, and that's gonna be different than one in peru. i think ultimately, saying that certain races are smarter than others is a dangerous argument that is based little on fact and mostly on assumption.

agreed, forget dress shoes.

^^^^^^

t-shirt, jeans, and tennis shoes are all I need
maybe a jacket if it's chilly

even then, an IQ test created in japan is gonna be different than one made in croatia, and that's gonna be different than one in peru. i think ultimately, saying that certain races are smarter than others is a dangerous argument that is based little on fact and mostly on assumption.

That's not necessarily true, though. I'm sure there is a way to objectively determine intelligence, like one of the theories I mentioned.

african people have no vaccines