Author Topic: LA Cops shoot unarmed guy in the face  (Read 3037 times)

It's easier to survive, the smaller the caliber weapon too, I think.
Actually that's somewhat incorrect. A smaller caliber will bounce off bone. So, it goes through the front, but doesn't have the mass or momentum anymore to pierce the back so it just bounces. Turns you into brain stew. The .22 is called the Assassin's round for a reason.

Yeah I think it would be smart to wait for the full story before jumping to conclusions. Article says his hand was wrapped, and he pointed it at officers. In an area with common gang violence, I can see where that might lead. Probably just bad choices by both parties.
Gonna have to agree with this. Both parties made bad choices, that cop had to make a judgement call with the information given and unfortunately sometimes those don't pan out. it's a sad reality that the person happened to be doing the exact wrong thing. (Disclaimer: I haven't seen the video, and I don't particularly want to. I like sleeping TYVM) someone unarmed being shot does not necessarily mean police brutality.

No it wouldn't, wtf.

Even if you have a felony, that doesn't mean a police officer is justified in shooting you dead for essentially nothing.

You don't instantly lose all of your civil rights as soon as you are convicted of a crime.
A felony isn't "nothing", even if it wasnt directly connected to the shooting. People who believe in karma or fate would perhaps say he had it coming for him, if he'd just committed a crime. Regardless, no one's saying that anyone is losing their civil rights just because they committed a crime. In this country you are innocent until proven guilty. Remember that that goes for police officers as well.

Besides, as Ipquarx just said:
Both parties made bad choices, that cop had to make a judgement call with the information given and unfortunately sometimes those don't pan out. it's a sad reality that the person happened to be doing the exact wrong thing. someone unarmed being shot does not necessarily mean police brutality.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2015, 01:39:42 AM by Planr »

aight now this one's forgetin ridiculous


spray whatever rhetoric you desire, but this guy got shot in the head for waving down a cop and brandishing a towel. this is not okay.

aight now this one's forgetin ridiculous


spray whatever rhetoric you desire, but this guy got shot in the head for waving down a cop and brandishing a towel. this is not okay.
this thank you i was afraid to say it

Apparently they thought he was concealing a weapon in the towel. He then pointed his arm at them, and ignored orders. Then they shot him.

I'm not sure why you'd hide a gun in a towel, but the police had some reason behind shooting him. Probably the same reason someone was shot by police for turning around and taking his hands out of his pockets.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2015, 01:55:01 AM by Narkro555 »

Apparently they thought he was concealing a weapon in the towel. He then pointed his arm at them. Then they shot him.

I'm not sure why you'd hide a gun in a towel, but the police had some reason behind shooting him. Probably the same reason someone was shot by police for turning around and taking his hands out of his pockets.
"he might have a gun, or it just might be his arm, what should we do? should we point our guns at him? "

"nah we should just shoot him right in the face. go for the killshot, that gets you more XP"

"oh forget yeah dude"

"he might have a gun, or it just might be his arm, what should we do? should we point our guns at him? "

"nah we should just shoot him right in the face. go for the killshot, that gets you more XP"

"oh forget yeah dude"
I never said it was fully rational, just that there was reason beyond "random." And as far as I know, police shoot only to kill.

aight now this one's forgetin ridiculous


spray whatever rhetoric you desire, but this guy got shot in the head for waving down a cop and brandishing a towel. this is not okay.
You make it sound so black and white. We don't know for certain that that was really all that he did. Perhaps the cops suspected a threat? After all, the article did say the officers believed he was concealing a weapon (they ordered him to "drop the gun"), and that the guy didn't respond to their order and instead "extended his arm" at them.

Like Narkro just said;
Apparently they thought he was concealing a weapon in the towel. He then pointed his arm at them. Then they shot him.

I'm not sure why you'd hide a gun in a towel, but the police had some reason behind shooting him. Probably the same reason someone was shot by police for turning around and taking his hands out of his pockets.

So it's possible the cops were sincerely afraid the guy was about to shoot them with whatever this concealed weapon was he (actually did not) have, and thus acted with deadly force. It's only a possibility, however. We don't know all the details yet, so no one can justly dictate who was and wasn't innocent in this incident.

"he might have a gun, or it just might be his arm, what should we do? should we point our guns at him? "

"nah we should just shoot him right in the face. go for the killshot, that gets you more XP"

"oh forget yeah dude"
Shooting in the head is the most efficient way to eliminate a potential threat. If he actually did have a gun and intended to shoot them with it, shooting him in the abdomen or any other body area cannot guarantee he won't still be able to shoot back. Regardless, I doubt the cops would have had the time to even have half that conversation.

This just happened and there is still a lot of things that will have to be sorted through, found out, and determined for certain. We should be careful not to jump to conclusions, and to not make one-sided, biased or baseless assumptions about who was and wasn't innocent.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2015, 02:09:05 AM by Planr »

I'll be honest, after all the hatred police get from sensationalistic media, if some guy pointed his arm at you and didn't put it down, and you didn't know what he was holding, I'd have some reason to be concerned. But who knows, it's also possible that those same officers wouldn't do the same thing if a white guy did the exact same thing. There is at least some reason in their actions. This title makes it seem like they just executed someone.

we've had this same topic about 20 times now in the past couple of months - unarmed person is killed by cop. in every single thread, the people who side with the police say that "mistakes will happen" and etc.

but at some point you gotta really look at what you're defending. a middle aged dude flags down a police car for help, accidentally waves a towel around and is shot in the head by police, who then handcuff the guy while he's bleeding profusely.

you don't have to defend the police every time someone is killed

sometimes cops are crazy, and this happen to be that some time

you don't have to defend the police every time someone is killed
I know I haven't... there was that one guy that was running away from a police officer for not paying fees or something, and instead of the officer chasing him down he just repeatedly shot him in the back. Yes, he died.

THAT is the kind of absolutely-no-doubt craziness that nobody ever supports. (He was convicted of murder, too) In this case, there is reasonable doubt that it was corruption or craziness and I will be awaiting further news on the subject, as I was not there and I cannot make nearly as accurate a decision as an internal investigation can.

I'm not defending the police; they forgeted up big time. But this title is misleading, and I don't think it should be. Only reporting bad things is what leads to such hatred of police in general.

Then again, I can't blame anyone for wanting to write things like this. Would you be interested in a topic called "Police ticket speeder?" "Police address noise complaint?" Or "police shoot unarmed man in the face?" Things like the first two are what police do 99.9% of the time. But nobody hears about that.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2015, 02:13:40 AM by Narkro555 »

the title isn't misleading at all. it's exactly what happened. the man was both unarmed, and shot in the face by the police

the title isn't misleading at all. it's exactly what happened. the man was both unarmed, and shot in the face by the police
"Police shoot man after he points concealed hand at them and doesn't respond to orders" could also be the title. It would be completely true as well, but lead people away from the idea that this was random execution.