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« Last Edit: June 26, 2015, 03:35:32 PM by Sp00n.exe »

islam isn't a religion of peace, never has been, probably never will be.


Religion of Peace.
Typical right wing bigot rhetoric (shouldn't be surprising coming from someone who is obsessed with national socialists). The whole "religion of peace" thing was a buzzword invented by Republicans to create more rhetoric for their conservative followers to use, I don't think the term was used before 9/11 at all.
islam isn't a religion of peace, never has been, probably never will be.
no religion can claim to be the religion of peace (much less an abrahamic religion), and no one has ever claimed any specific religion is the religion of peace
« Last Edit: June 26, 2015, 02:39:22 PM by Biostorm »

Typical right wing bigot rhetoric. The whole "religion of peace" thing was a buzzword invented by Republicans to create more rhetoric for their conservative followers to use, I don't think the term was used before 9/11 at all.no religion can claim to be the religion of peace (much less an abrahamic religion), and no one has ever claimed any specific religion is the religion of peace

That's nice. I don't see christians going out and shooting up people, I don't see the Jews doing it either.

Islam is one of the worst religions out there, to killing others for not being islamic, to taking basic human rights from others.

An Arabic word only has one root.  The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.”  There is no disagreement about this among Islamic scholars. al-Silm (submission) does not mean the same thing as al-Salaam (peace), otherwise they would be the same word.   

Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about through forcing others into submission.  As the modern-day Islamic scholar, Ibrahim Sulaiman, puts it, "Jihad is not inhumane, despite its necessary violence and bloodshed, its ultimate desire is peace which is protected and enhanced by the rule of law."

In truth, the Quran not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also commands them to  subdue people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule.  This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its success in conquering other cultures.

That's nice. I don't see christians going out and shooting up people, I don't see the Jews doing it either.

Islam is one of the worst religions out there, to killing others for not being islamic, to taking basic human rights from others.

An Arabic word only has one root.  The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.”  There is no disagreement about this among Islamic scholars. al-Silm (submission) does not mean the same thing as al-Salaam (peace), otherwise they would be the same word.  

Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about through forcing others into submission.  As the modern-day Islamic scholar, Ibrahim Sulaiman, puts it, "Jihad is not inhumane, despite its necessary violence and bloodshed, its ultimate desire is peace which is protected and enhanced by the rule of law."

In truth, the Quran not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also commands them to  subdue people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule.  This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its success in conquering other cultures.
True. But Look at the Crusades. Both are equally starfishs. Don't forget that extremists do not define a religion as a whole. Its made up of people, and people are different from eachother.

That's nice. I don't see christians going out and shooting up people, I don't see the Jews doing it either.

Islam is one of the worst religions out there, to killing others for not being islamic, to taking basic human rights from others.

An Arabic word only has one root.  The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.”  There is no disagreement about this among Islamic scholars. al-Silm (submission) does not mean the same thing as al-Salaam (peace), otherwise they would be the same word.   

Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about through forcing others into submission.  As the modern-day Islamic scholar, Ibrahim Sulaiman, puts it, "Jihad is not inhumane, despite its necessary violence and bloodshed, its ultimate desire is peace which is protected and enhanced by the rule of law."

In truth, the Quran not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also commands them to  subdue people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule.  This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its success in conquering other cultures.

That's nice. I don't see christians going out and shooting up people, I don't see the Jews doing it either.
It's happened before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein, but a lot of terrorism is a response to the US/other countries going in there in the first place. Just because you're not willing to do a bit of research doesn't mean you should dismiss a point.
That's nice. I don't see christians going out and shooting up people, I don't see the Jews doing it either.

Islam is one of the worst religions out there, to killing others for not being islamic, to taking basic human rights from others.

An Arabic word only has one root.  The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.”  There is no disagreement about this among Islamic scholars. al-Silm (submission) does not mean the same thing as al-Salaam (peace), otherwise they would be the same word.  

Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about through forcing others into submission.  As the modern-day Islamic scholar, Ibrahim Sulaiman, puts it, "Jihad is not inhumane, despite its necessary violence and bloodshed, its ultimate desire is peace which is protected and enhanced by the rule of law."

In truth, the Quran not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also commands them to  subdue people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule.  This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its success in conquering other cultures.
Well since you're referencing things done in the past, how about the crusades or the conquering of the native Americans by the Spanish?

Also you literally copy and pasted from this site:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm

The very same site that says:
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Muslims often complain of popular "misconceptions" about their religion in the West.

We took a hard look, however, and found that the most prevalent myths of Islam are the ones held by Muslims and Western apologists.  The only glaring exception to this is the misconception that all Muslims are alike (they aren't, of course), but even Muslims often believe this as well, as evidenced by the various contrary factions insisting that they are the  true Muslims, while those who disagree with them are either infidels, hijackers, or hypocrites.

These people will try to discredit Muslims from any time period, they're starfishs who deserve no credibility, and anyone who actively reads their site and parrots their information has no credibility either.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2015, 02:54:13 PM by Biostorm »

itt spoon flaunts his lack of braincells again

That's nice. I don't see christians going out and shooting up people, I don't see the Jews doing it either.

Islam is one of the worst religions out there, to killing others for not being islamic, to taking basic human rights from others.

An Arabic word only has one root.  The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.”  There is no disagreement about this among Islamic scholars. al-Silm (submission) does not mean the same thing as al-Salaam (peace), otherwise they would be the same word.   

Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about through forcing others into submission.  As the modern-day Islamic scholar, Ibrahim Sulaiman, puts it, "Jihad is not inhumane, despite its necessary violence and bloodshed, its ultimate desire is peace which is protected and enhanced by the rule of law."

In truth, the Quran not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also commands them to  subdue people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule.  This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its success in conquering other cultures.
Aren't you supposed to be a national socialist? Act like one! Where's the juvenile aggression and support of totalitarian policy? Where's your support for the slaughter of ethnic groups, like in the comic in your signature? Grow a backbone and stick to your ideology at least!

That's nice. I don't see christians going out and shooting up people.
westboro baptist church
(though i dont think they have shot anyone but they are still insane)

every belief has their crazies

But Look at the Crusades.

oh you mean that reactionary war initiated by the kings of europe in response to this and this, which happened hundreds of years before the first crusade

there was also a lot of fighting in the mediterranean


Teutonic Order eh?

Crusades happened a long time ago and only happened because the Papacy demanded that the holy land be defended from Muslim invaders. Long time ago, relevant to history in the mid east. However its was still a long time ago.

honestly who the forget cares what religion they are, it doesn't matter

what should matter is that they loving killed people

oh you mean that reactionary war initiated by the kings of europe in response to this and this, which happened hundreds of years before the first crusade

there was also a lot of fighting in the mediterranean
Yup thats the one. However the atrocities initiated during the Crusades oddly go unmentioned in your post. The truth is, they were doing it in the name of "God". So it doesn't really help anything.