ISideWith 2016 US President Election

[Tom Gunn]

rand paul is literally a global warming denier
i dont suggest voting him

How very one dimensional of you lol

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[e-maxx]

i really wasn't expecting that

[Ipquarx]

Uh carbon emissions are not really that big of a problem. Water vapor is one of the more prevalent greenhouse gases, and methane from livestock is a bigger contributor to global warming than automobiles.

"The average residence time of a water molecule in the atmosphere is only about nine days, compared to years or centuries for other greenhouse gases such as CH
₄ and CO₂. Thus, water vapor responds to and amplifies effects of the other greenhouse gases. The Clausius–Clapeyron relation establishes that more water vapor will be present per unit volume at elevated temperatures. This and other basic principles indicate that warming associated with increased concentrations of the other greenhouse gases also will increase the concentration of water vapor (assuming that the relative humidity remains approximately constant; modeling and observational studies find that this is indeed so). Because water vapor is a greenhouse gas, this results in further warming and so is a "positive feedback" that amplifies the original warming. Eventually other earth processes offset these positive feedbacks, stabilizing the global temperature at a new equilibrium and preventing the loss of Earth's water through a Venus-like runaway greenhouse effect."



Methane from livestock is quite clearly contributing less than CO₂, which is what we need to be reducing. Reducing CO₂ reduces water vapor which even further reduces global warming.

How very one dimensional of you lol

Global warming is a serious problem that needs to be taken care of. The longer we go without something serious being done about it the closer we come to permanently loving things up.

[Cappytaino]

"The average residence time of a water molecule in the atmosphere is only about nine days, compared to years or centuries for other greenhouse gases such as CH
₄ and CO₂. Thus, water vapor responds to and amplifies effects of the other greenhouse gases. The Clausius–Clapeyron relation establishes that more water vapor will be present per unit volume at elevated temperatures. This and other basic principles indicate that warming associated with increased concentrations of the other greenhouse gases also will increase the concentration of water vapor (assuming that the relative humidity remains approximately constant; modeling and observational studies find that this is indeed so). Because water vapor is a greenhouse gas, this results in further warming and so is a "positive feedback" that amplifies the original warming. Eventually other earth processes offset these positive feedbacks, stabilizing the global temperature at a new equilibrium and preventing the loss of Earth's water through a Venus-like runaway greenhouse effect."



Methane from livestock is quite clearly contributing less than CO₂, which is what we need to be reducing. Reducing CO₂ reduces water vapor which even further reduces global warming.

Global warming is a serious problem that needs to be taken care of. The longer we go without something serious being done about it the closer we come to permanently loving things up.

Source for that table?

[Ipquarx]

Source for that table?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas#Impacts_on_the_overall_greenhouse_effect

Wikipedia cites this source for the table: http://web.archive.org/web/20060330013311/http://www.atmo.arizona.edu/students/courselinks/spring04/atmo451b/pdf/RadiationBudget.pdf

[Cappytaino]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas#Impacts_on_the_overall_greenhouse_effect

Wikipedia cites this source for the table: http://web.archive.org/web/20060330013311/http://www.atmo.arizona.edu/students/courselinks/spring04/atmo451b/pdf/RadiationBudget.pdf

I retract my statement for methane being a large contributor, but, assuming the numbers are correct, wouldn't the main problem be evaporation? Carbon emissions may contribute a small part, but water vapor appears to be the larger culprit. Damn nature warming the Earth.

Also loving volcanoes and their carbon emmissions

Carbon dioxide is released when magma rises from the depths of the Earth on its way to the surface. Our studies here at Kilauea show that the eruption discharges between 8,000 and 30,000 metric tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere each day. Actively erupting volcanoes release much more CO2 than sleeping ones do.

Source about halfway down the page

[Steve5451²]

Also got 95% for Bernie Sanders
he's my homie yo

I'm going to have to reconsider.

[Otis Da HousKat]

I would never vote for Hillary, even if she was at the top of the list.

[Ipquarx]

I retract my statement for methane being a large contributor, but, assuming the numbers are correct, wouldn't the main problem be evaporation? Carbon emissions may contribute a small part, but water vapor appears to be the larger culprit. Damn nature warming the Earth.

The problem is that CO₂ contributes more to global warming than it initially seems. The more the globe warms the more water is evaporated from the oceans and other places, therefore if we reduce the CO₂ in the atmosphere, less water vapor will be evaporated and global warming will be significantly reduced.

Thankfully it seems we won't turn out like Venus with a runaway greenhouse effect, as the other earth processes will cause a new equilibrium^[1], but this apparently takes a long time and the new equilibrium could be too much for many species of animals to take, irreversibly damaging the ecosystem and potentially harming people too.

[Oasis]

The problem is that CO₂ contributes more to global warming than it initially seems. The more the globe warms the more water is evaporated from the oceans and other places, therefore if we reduce the CO₂ in the atmosphere, less water vapor will be evaporated and global warming will be significantly reduced.

Thankfully it seems we won't turn out like Venus with a runaway greenhouse effect, as the other earth processes will cause a new equilibrium^[1], but this apparently takes a long time and the new equilibrium could be too much for many species of animals to take, irreversibly damaging the ecosystem and potentially harming people too.

Harming the ecosystem inevitably harms people.

[Cappytaino]

The problem is that CO₂ contributes more to global warming than it initially seems. The more the globe warms the more water is evaporated from the oceans and other places, therefore if we reduce the CO₂ in the atmosphere, less water vapor will be evaporated and global warming will be significantly reduced.

Thankfully it seems we won't turn out like Venus with a runaway greenhouse effect, as the other earth processes will cause a new equilibrium^[1], but this apparently takes a long time and the new equilibrium could be too much for many species of animals to take, irreversibly damaging the ecosystem and potentially harming people too.

Still doesn't address volcanic activity as a factor. At an estimated potential of 30,000 tons of carbon dioxide per day per volcano times 1500 estimated active volcanoes, that's 45,000,000 tons of carbon dioxide per day just from volcanoes alone. That's a stuff load of carbon dioxide that we can't really stop from getting out.

[blockguy™]

i got marco rubio

[Ipquarx]

Still doesn't address volcanic activity as a factor. At an estimated potential of 30,000 tons of carbon dioxide per day per volcano times 1500 estimated active volcanoes, that's 45,000,000 tons of carbon dioxide per day just from volcanoes alone. That's a stuff load of carbon dioxide that we can't really stop from getting out.

That's most definitely not right...


(Source: http://www.csiro.au/greenhouse-gases )

Unless you have proof that volcanoes are getting significantly more active by the year, what's stopping us from reducing CO₂ in the atmosphere by almost 50%?

[ZSNO]

Still doesn't address volcanic activity as a factor. At an estimated potential of 30,000 tons of carbon dioxide per day per volcano times 1500 estimated active volcanoes, that's 45,000,000 tons of carbon dioxide per day just from volcanoes alone. That's a stuff load of carbon dioxide that we can't really stop from getting out.

"We're forgeted anyway. Let's just forget it up faster!"
Great philosophy bro

[XR-7]

"We're forgeted anyway. Let's just forget it up faster!"
Great philosophy bro

That's not what he's saying.